Sort me out KDE4 vs. KDE3

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#1

I’ve installed new at Jan01 for SuSE 11.1 and KDE4.
But I’m finding it very time consuming to chase all the problems of KDE4 and it gives me lots of problems.
So I have 3 questions:

  1. Do I understand right that I DON’t need KDE4-versions of applications (kde4-k3b vs. k3b for example) and can use the old KDE3 versions under KDE4?

  2. I believe I have read now that it is possible to install both KDE3 and KDE4. How do I go back at this point to install KDE3 so I can use either one?

  3. How does one upgrade to KDE 4.2? I have nearly a dozen repositories setup according to pages elsewhere on the opensuse.org pages, but the updater applet is not showing me any KDE 4.2 upgrade…

Thanks for any help understanding.

#2

  1. Yes you can use kde3 apps in kde4 and k3b for kde3 is what you want

  2. You need to disable auto login
    Then In Yast Software Management - filter by Patterns
    check kde3-base and kde3-desktop
    accept

Then, at the login screen select kde3 or kde4 from the sessions menu in the lower left of the screen

  1. You need these repo’s for kde4.2

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop

Index of /repositories/KDE:/Qt44/openSUSE_11.1

Perhaps you better post your current repo’s here so we can check them
from a terminal:

zypper lr

#3

First I would thank you very much for your help.
Going one step at a time,…

I entered YaST to observe the paths to the repositories…

My KDE4 repositories:
“http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3A/KDE4%3A/Community/openSUSE_11.1/”
“http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3A/KDE4%3A/STABLE%3A/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/”
“http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3A/KDE4%3A/STABLE%3A/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1/”

My openSuse repositories:
“http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/”
“http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/”
“http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/”
“http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/”
“http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/”

Misc repositories
“http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-jengelh/SUSE-11.1/”
“http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1/”
“http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/11.1/”
“http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/11.1/”

Notes:
%3a in the KDE repositories is a replacement the system makes for : in those path names.
Videolan repository is not currently enabled -according to instructions on the oft-referenced 10 steps pages- as it will conflict with packman.

Should I DISable the KDE4 repositories above before adding the repositories mentioned in your reply?
Or should they exist concurrently?

#4

kde3 and kde4 repo’s can co-exist

the kde4 repos you have look ok - but you need to add
Index of /repositories/KDE:/Qt44/openSUSE_11.1

#5

In the days i was using KDE every time i had community repos enabled it gave me problems (Kaffeine, K3B and other). I’d disable these repos. They are not default in openSUSE for a reason and if You want to chase bugs You can freely enable them. Unless there is an update You really need but i wouldn’t be subscribed to them. You can add those repos for KDE 4.2 with no problems though be prepared to remove compiz and some conflicting packages.And if it goes about K3b and Kaffeine better stick with KDE 3 versions (the KDE 4 versions aren’t ready for a public release yet, trust me with that) thouth the idea of having ONLY KDE 4 apps is great stick with KDE 3 versions. Have phun