I know its a silly question, but I am very green. I had a play with Linux some while ago, but could never find one that worked with my computer. I know have one that worked, well so far. Haven’t sorted out the printer as yet though. I am trying to locate the application for links onto the desktop. eg. Want to put Opera browser linked to the desktop, or have to locate the application for things to work.
Thank you for your help and patients
So do you want an Opera Browser icon on the desktop?
What Desktop Environment are you using? (e.g. KDE or GNOME)
KDE. I found on Windows7 and now OpenSuse Firefox behaves strangely. Opera is more stable. But I just want to know where the applications are stored so as I can link them to the desktop or to another application
Presuming Opera is installed you should click the KDE menu button (bottom left corner), Then click Applications then in there go to Internet -> Web Browser. Then drag the Opera icon to the Desktop (Desktop Folder plasmoid by default). Then right click on the Opera icon on the desktop and click Properties. Then click the Permissions tab and tick the “Is executable” box. Then click OK.
Many thanks. Now I know how that works where would I find the other applications. Just like Windows I go to Program files and search out the .exe and I have the software linked. Where is the equivalent in OpenSuse?
Thanks
If you want to search for applications just go to the KDE menu again and you can search for an application with the “Search” box. For example if I typed “terminal” in that search box (without quotation marks of course) it will come up with Konsole which is a terminal emulator for KDE. Then you can drag that to the desktop if you wanted.
TonyBennett wrote:
> Just like Windows I go to Program files and search out
> the .exe and I have the software linked. Where is the equivalent in
> OpenSuse?
there are LOTS of things on Linux which do no exist on Windows, so
“Just like Windows” is a habit you need to begin to get away from…
the Linux file system does not have a “Programs” directory where all
the .exe files ever added is kept…Linux is FAR advanced over that
old 1980s file system model…in Linux there are no .exe files, there
ARE of course executable files but they do not need an .exe tacked on
to the end…
do it the new way, install your applications using YaST and they will
automatically (almost always) be added to the menu…then, like the
other poster said: open the menu, find what you are looking for by
name and drag that icon to the desktop, or panel, or folder, or
superDuperLauncheroo, or maybe to the moon (eventually)…
by the way, some of the things you did on Windows will not only NOT
work here, some of them will actually do harm here…like, did you
log into Windows as the Administrator? don’t do it here, we call our
administrator “Root” so, do it the Linux way:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
In my opinion it is not silly question. These “silly” question and other of them help us to improve linux
All sorted and getting the hang of it now - Thank you all for your kind assistance
Y’know, after years of using Linux exclusively for my own needs, this is still one of my sticking points: how do you find out where Yast/RPM/zypper put the darn icons? A search in KDE will get you to the installed app (if you get the title right), but it won’t tell you where it put it, unless you open the menu editor and search through the menu manually. Or, go back into Yast and look through the “installed files” list.
In this way, I can certainly relate to the OP’s problem with finding his newly installed software.
The thing is: it is not really very interesting where exactly executables are put. Why should one want to know? Applications are handled by the package manager anyway, so there’s no real need to search for them.
I might have a different attitude from a common (ex-)Win user, because I started with Linux.
Either way, if you want to know the path to a executable (is that what you mean by ‘darn icons’?), you can use the command which:
kalle@hoppers:~> which hydrogen
/usr/bin/hydrogen
Most executables can be find in /usr/bin/, but there are other possible paths as well.
One more thing: DenverD is correct that within KDE, you will find an icon in the menu right after the install of a new application, unfortunately that does not seem to be the case with GNOME, which (as far as my little experience goes) will need a restart of the desktop (GNOME-fans, please correct me if I’m wrong here).
Edit: Argh, twelveeighty, I kind of misread your post - you were referring to where to find the icons in the menus… I got that mixed up, sorry. Indeed, it is not always clear which segment of a menu is used for an application, but in most cases, the defaults are quite sane, if you ask me. A videoplayer will be found in “Multimedia” → “Player” or something, but you are right: in some cases one has to browse a bit to find a certain program.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:06:01 +0530, twelveeighty
<twelveeighty@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> DenverD;2279056 Wrote:
>>
>> do it the new way, install your applications using YaST and they will
>> automatically (almost always) be added to the menu…
>
> Y’know, after years of using Linux exclusively for my own needs, this
> is still one of my sticking points: how do you find out where
> Yast/RPM/zypper put the darn icons? A search in KDE will get you to the
> installed app (if you get the title right), but it won’t tell you
> where it put it, unless you open the menu editor and search through
> the menu manually. Or, go back into Yast and look through the “installed
> files” list.
>
> In this way, I can certainly relate to the OP’s problem with finding
> his newly installed software.
>
if you type “whereis <app. name>” at a command prompt, you’ll find out
usually. you also have to get the name right, but command completion helps.
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phani.
For the most part Linux is pretty well structured. Though you can find exceptions.
/bin holds most of the standard shell (command line) programs like cat, ls, awk, etc
/sbin holds standard system (root) level commands
/usr/bin normally holds most user level executables
/usr/sbin again is the root level programs
So there are standard place executables get put. Most packages will follow these guidelines
Also if you look at the bottom left of the Yast-Software Management screen you will see some tabs one show where all files for that rpm will go. So everything you might want to know is there if you care to look.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:36:03 +0530, gropiuskalle
<gropiuskalle@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> Code:
> --------------------
> kalle@hoppers:~> which hydrogen
> /usr/bin/hydrogen
> --------------------
roughly, “which” shows you the path to the executable, while “whereis”
shows you also where sources, man pages, and other related files are
stored. both commands have man pages that explain their functions and
different command line options.
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phani.
Another way, on an rpm based system like openSUSE, is to use an rpm command to check out what files come with an installation. Lets say one installed the rpm skype-2.1.0.81-16.1.x86_64 and one wants to know where it keeps its executeables (and other files). Simply type the rpm querry:
rpm -qi skype -l
where after the first " - " that is “q” for query, “i” for information, and then after ‘skype’ the “-l” for list of files (that is a lower case ‘L’).
From that one can see where the binary executeable is located in what ‘bin’ directory: (in this case /usr/bin/skype ). Under /usr/share/skype/skype.desktop one can see there is a desktop file (for a desktop icon) if one wishes to later use that for their desktop. And the location of the various .wav files are clear, in case one wants to innovate and do some changes.
On 01/25/2011 05:36 AM, twelveeighty wrote:
> Y’know, after years of using Linux . . . how do you find out where
> Yast/RPM/zypper put the darn icons?
of course i can’t answer that (i just installed 11.3 and it took me
far too long searching the menu for just where ‘they’ hid KWrite this
time) as i suppose that exactly the same problem faces users of Mac
and all other operating systems…
that old “One man’s trash another man’s treasure” pops to mind when i
find text editors nestled in various paths beginning like: System or
Office or Utilities or Applications or Development or Favorites or or
or or…
when everyone who is smart enough to breath knows that simple text
editors should be only in . . . what?
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.4.4
release 3, Thunderbird3.0.11,]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
… Favorites, if you ask me.