Remember Sony’s rootkit a few years ago? That was for script kiddies. The entertainment industry has big plans now.
All we now need is a s/w which will tell us which is bad spyware and good spyware. It is going to be doomsday soon if that gets legalised.
On Tue, 28 May 2013 02:56:04 +0000, chief sealth wrote:
> Remember Sony’s rootkit a few years ago? That was for script kiddies.
> The entertainment industry has big plans now.
>
> ‘US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy
> rootkits, spyware, ransomware and trojans to attack pirates! - Boing
> Boing’
> (http://boingboing.net/2013/05/26/us-entertainment-industry-to-c.html)
If this gets approved, I’m going to be waiting for the first “infection”
for someone who didn’t pirate the content in question. Then I’ll make
some popcorn and sit back and watch.
Jim
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On 2013-05-28 19:05, Jim Henderson wrote:
> If this gets approved, I’m going to be waiting for the first “infection”
> for someone who didn’t pirate the content in question. Then I’ll make
> some popcorn and sit back and watch.
ROTFL!
Huh, maybe I should not laugh too much. The “states” have the custom of
trying to push their “multimedia rights” laws to other countries, and
sometimes they succeed. 
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LMSO. But serious: isn’t this the best approach?
On Tue, 28 May 2013 19:06:09 +0000, Knurpht wrote:
> LMSO. But serious: isn’t this the best approach?
Infecting machines is never the best approach, IMHO. Apart from opening
up the companies to liability if they “incorrectly” infect a machine that
has the content/software legally, I see it as being just as ethically
wrong as pirating stuff in the first place.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Two lefts do.
Never mind the ridiculous ongoing extension of copyright in the US (at
least). Just imagine how this will bite us in the behind when stuff
actually goes into the public domain. Or the company goes out of
business.
Jim
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Oh cheeze here we go again, I feel like the congress in my country does not have a mind to think with at all so this is a little scary. I bet this actually seems like a good idea to our congress since they all get huge campaign donations from the entertainment industry. Who else can afford to give a politician millions besides someone who is making millions.
I doubt either politicians or entertainers have a keen grasp of what is needed to protect computers.
On Tue, 28 May 2013 23:06:02 +0000, anika200 wrote:
> chief_sealth;2560718 Wrote:
>> Remember Sony’s rootkit a few years ago? That was for script kiddies.
>> The entertainment industry has big plans now.
>>
>> ‘US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy
>> rootkits, spyware, ransomware and trojans to attack pirates! - Boing
>> Boing’
>> (http://boingboing.net/2013/05/26/us-entertainment-industry-to-c.html)
>
> Oh cheeze here we go again, I feel like the congress in my country does
> not have a mind to think with at all so this is a little scary. I bet
> this actually seems like a good idea to our congress since they all get
> huge campaign donations from the entertainment industry. Who else can
> afford to give a politician millions besides someone who is making
> millions.
> I doubt either politicians or entertainers have a keen grasp of what is
> needed to protect computers.
Just a note for anyone reading here - talking about the law is fine,
talking about the politicians crosses the line. Let’s keep it about the
issue rather than the people behind the law, or we’ll have to close this
thread.
Thanks,
Jim
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Well there is not a law yet nor a vote in congress so we can not talk about that but I see your point with regards to dissing particular people or class of people, thanks for the reminder.
On Wed, 29 May 2013 00:06:01 +0000, anika200 wrote:
> Well there is not a law yet nor a vote in congress so we can not talk
> about that but I see your point with regards to dissing particular
> people or class of people, thanks for the reminder.
Well, by “law” I meant “the legal aspects”, but ultimately, the issue is
fine for discussion. 
Thanks for understanding.
Jim
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On 2013-05-28 21:15, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 19:06:09 +0000, Knurpht wrote:
>
>> LMSO. But serious: isn’t this the best approach?
>
> Infecting machines is never the best approach, IMHO. Apart from opening
> up the companies to liability if they “incorrectly” infect a machine that
> has the content/software legally, I see it as being just as ethically
> wrong as pirating stuff in the first place.
This has been tried before.
IIRC, one of the first viruses that got in the wild was a copy
protection scheme for a computer game. If you copied the floppy, you got
the virus and it infected your computer. If you played the original one,
you did not, or it did not matter because you needed to reboot the
machine to play the game, and reboot again to do anything else.
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To do that would they 1st have to mandate that everyone uses a similar OS?
That’s even scarier because after mandating health insurance here by effectively calling a penalty a tax a distro like Opensuse could become illegal.
Then we’d all be forced to spend 200 USD or pay a penalty. OH MSFT would love that!
> Oh cheeze here we go again, I feel like the congress in my country does
> not have a mind to think with
Yep. And they’re being led by an industry trying to stick with a business
model from the 50’s. The day of TV channels is coming to an end. They need
to just put the content out there, embed their commercials in each
posted video and be done with it. That’s the best they’re going to get. The
days of everyone sitting around the TV at a preset time are over with, with
exception of ‘Live’ content like sports. Even there, I still see a need for
recorded content. What is desperately needed is the ability to search for
what you are looking for in a reasonable manner, channel surfing goes back
to the first remotes in the 70’s. Imagine being able to ‘menu surf’ with
interactive ‘live tiles’ showing snippits of the show and being able to jump
in and start from the beginning. That’d be cool,a nd I suspect what Jobs
was envisioning before his death. Time will tell.
Three. Two only make you go back 
On Fri, 31 May 2013 23:46:01 +0000, brunomcl wrote:
> hendersj;2560871 Wrote:
>>
>> Two wrongs don’t make a right. Two lefts do.
>>
>>
> Three. Two only make you go back 
Ah, right, I don’t know how I missed that.
Jim
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Wouldn’t it depend on the angle of the left turn? Like two 90 degree turns would equal a 180 and you’d be facing the oposite direction. Or two 45 degree turns would equal one 90 degree so you could be facing one side or the other. So in this case, how much of a left turn? Are we assuming 90 degree angles, or right angles?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:56:01 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:
> Wouldn’t it depend on the angle of the left turn? Like two 90 degree
> turns would equal a 180 and you’d be facing the oposite direction. Or
> two 45 degree turns would equal one 90 degree so you could be facing one
> side or the other. So in this case, how much of a left turn? Are we
> assuming 90 degree angles, or right angles?
True, though I think most people think in terms of 90 degrees. But two
left turns of 180 degrees also doesn’t make a right, either. So two 135
degree turns would do it.
Jim
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