I can’t believe it…
I’m using software manager module in Yast 2 and it doesn’t show from which repository the various packages come from?
I mean, if I do a search and find something I’d like to install, the I need to know where it come from! right?
I really hope I’m wrong
Click on the “Version” tab. It will show you what versions there are and which repo.
you can also use zypper
for example for SMplayer
zypper info smplayer
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Information for package smplayer:
---------------------------------
Repository: Packman Repository
Name: smplayer
Version: 14.9.0.6690-1.1
Arch: x86_64
Vendor: http://packman.links2linux.de
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
Installed Size: 3.6 MiB
Summary: Complete frontend for MPV
Description:
SMPlayer intends to be a complete front-end for MPV/MPlayer, from
basic features like playing videos, DVDs, and VCDs to more
advanced features like support for MPV filters and more.
One of the most interesting features of SMPlayer: it remembers the
settings of all files you play. So you start to watch a movie but
you have to leave... don't worry, when you open that movie again it
will resume at the same point you left it, and with the same
settings: audio track, subtitles, volume...
it tells you the vender
" Vendor: http://packman.links2linux.de "
Unacceptable.
It should be there on the main window view with the other coloums “packages”, “summary”, “installed (available)” and “size”.
Jeez, am I the only one thinking this is crazy?
Why is it unacceptable?
If you haven`t enable many Repositories, then the package is mostly in only 1 Repository.
So less Repos are much more…
You are free to accept this or not. I fail to see what the consequences of not accepting will be (but I am not really interested either).
One advice though. Discussing in this way will most probably stop people from posting in this thread. It could even be that people remember your name when you start your next thread and by implication skip it and go and try to help other people.
Yes, indeed. That is one of the earliest tactics I learned when first joining the forum: Remember the name and just skip future posts from them…
Probably.
You want to clutter the screen with information that most users don’t need. It’s not hard to click a tab for the details that you want.
That’s vital information for basic operations like install/uninstall.
I’d call it design flaw. I probably had to ask first to the developers list if they had a reason for putting that info under a tab: it should be there in the main columns (and I’m not even adding an “imho”
Thanks for all the replies,
sorry to some if we can’t be BFF
Version tab shows a lot more info then just repo. it shows all available versions and from which repos. Also the addition of a repo column would make the browse far too wide.
There’s nothing vital about it, as far as I can tell. Most of the time I don’t bother to look for that information.
Honestly, if that is so important to you, then you shouldn’t be using repos at all. You should be compiling everything from source.
it is there
for Smplayer as in my zypper example
http://8.t.imgbox.com/1lQAF22G.jpg](http://imgbox.com/1lQAF22G)
As I recall Ubuntus software center which is supposed to be the most user friendly installer doesn’t show jack **** about repositories either.
On 2015-04-11 08:26, suseisnotdebian wrote:
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> Unacceptable.
> It should be there on the main window view with the other coloums
> “packages”, “summary”, “installed (available)” and “size”.
> Jeez, am I the only one thinking this is crazy?
Yes, I miss that info there.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
On 2015-04-11 15:46, nrickert wrote:
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> suseisnotdebian;2704221 Wrote:
>> Jeez, am I the only one thinking this is crazy?
>
> Probably.
>
> You want to clutter the screen with information that most users don’t
> need.
Well, on many applications you can choose what columns to display. It is
kind of standard GUI.
> It’s not hard to click a tab for the details that you want.
Well, displaying the repo name in a column has its uses: you can see it
at a glance, dozens of packages at a time. You can sort on it. You can
easily detect packages that came from the wrong repo… Yes, that
feature would be very useful.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
On 2015-04-11 16:56, suseisnotdebian wrote:
>
> nrickert;2704248 Wrote:
>> Probably.
>>
>> You want to clutter the screen with information that most users don’t
>> need. It’s not hard to click a tab for the details that you want.
>
> That’s vital information for basic operations like install/uninstall.
> I’d call it design flaw. I probably had to ask first to the developers
> list if they had a reason for putting that info under a tab: it should
> be there in the main columns (and I’m not even adding an “imho”
Probably because the rpm database doesn’t contain that info, so it can not be listed that easily.
The usual method is to query “zypper info” on package by package.
The question popped up recently in the mail list, and I got a response to use “zypper pa -iN” to get a useful list of data:
....
v | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | yelp | 3.10.1-1.1 | i586
i | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | yelp-xsl | 3.10.1-1.1 | noarch
i | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | yelp-xsl | 3.10.1-1.1 | noarch
i | @System | youtube-dl | 2015.03.28-227.1 | noarch
v | Packman Repository | youtube-dl | 2015.04.09-229.1 | noarch
v | openSUSE-13.1-Update | youtube-dl | 2014.02.28-2.4.1 | noarch
v | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | youtube-dl | 2013.05.23-2.1.2 | noarch
i | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | yp-tools | 2.14-2.1.2 | x86_64
i | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | yp-tools | 2.14-2.1.2 | x86_64
v | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | yp-tools | 2.14-2.1.2 | i586
i | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | ypbind | 1.37.1-2.1.3 | x86_64
i | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | ypbind | 1.37.1-2.1.3 | x86_64
v | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | ypbind | 1.37.1-2.1.3 | i586
Then you have to use tr or awk or something to get a useful list that you can sort by whatever field.
(And the above is not a clear package list, there are duplicates)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
As the repository view shows all packages available (intalled or not) from a specific repo, IMHO as well as the individual information about a package you are viewing as well as the infformation which packages you have from a repo are easy to reach.
Each application takes some time to get used to. When one does not want to spend that little bit of time in exploring the several buttons/menus, that is ones own decision. But then going to your fellow users and informing them that things are unacceptable and/or crazy is not the way to compensate for this.
On 2015-04-12 12:26, hcvv wrote:
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> As the repository view shows all packages available (intalled or not)
> from a specific repo, IMHO as well as the individual information about a
> package you are viewing as well as the infformation which packages you
> have from a repo are easy to reach.
Yes, but…
For instance, display the packman repo. The thing is, it is not
immediately obvious if installed packages came from packman or elsewhere
— unless you click on each one and examine the versions tab. When there
are hundreds of packages to check, this is very tedious, compared to
having a column displaying the repo name, which would allow me to see
that data for dozens of packages at a glance.
Another occasion when I miss this feature is when doing a distribution
upgrade using the DVD: as the dvd can not contain everything, not
everything is upgraded. I use an rpm query to find packages needing
upgrade, because YaST doesn’t display the information easily.
> But then going to your fellow users and
> informing them that things are unacceptable and/or crazy is not the way
> to compensate for this.
Yep, absolutely
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
Just change to the packman repo in the menu only packages from packman are shown with those installed listed first then the rest apha sorted
You can select any active repo
Well, I too think that it would be nice to be able to have that included, say by right-clicking and adding that to the columns, but …
I think the above quote was the main point of Henk’s post, and I agree completely with the statement.