So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

I have been trying to configure dual monitors of different resolutions on 11.4 the Nvidia configuration utility does not know where or what to save anything anymore and goes wonky. Trying to use it is a dead end for me.

X11 is a mess. What happened to SAX and things like this that were part of openSUSE and just worked? Supposedly we X11 got better. I think it’s got over complicated and much worse. Sorry to rant. This stuff just worked in 11.1 and KDE 3.

http://www.slhess.com/pictures/just-sad.jpg

Just like FlameBait showed you (assuming you use KDE), that’s where you configure your screen and multiple monitors. I have Nvidia graphics card and i use the Nouveau drivers over the Nvidia ones.It’s smooth and fast and i also configured two displays where one is on the right of the other, not duplicate view. They are not the same monitors so the resolution is different per monitor.

it is very easy to setup.

On 2011-05-05 02:06, FlameBait wrote:
> What happened to SAX and things like this that were

Disappeared in 11.3, nobody volunteered to maintain it. There is a project
to create a new sax, I think part of the google summer of code or another
similar project.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

That is what KDE shows, only one monitor, the Nvidia configuration app shows both monitors and the correct resolutions for them but there is no way to save the configuration. It doesn’t know where to save the configuration file. The progam goes wonky and doesn’t do anything.

It’s broken this is a MAJOR failure. Things that once just worked should not be broken just so the Devs and do something new. FAIL to the maximum.

What version of KDE are you using ? 4.4 had a not saving the configuration. 4.6 workes .

Whatever openSUSE 11.4 ships with.
4.6.0.0 is what the KDE “Personal Settings” says

can you update to 4.6.2 ? later tonight i’ll be in front of my KDE computer and i’ll try to go over the steps for you

Thanks for the offer but I want to keep the KDE 11.4 shipped with.

Well I have gone through YAST and all the configuration items and can’t see where you obtain the god like powers to enable two displays.
It’s pretty much the same in Ubuntu 11.04 though which I installed yesterday on a spare drive. It was totally clueless about the second monitor as well.

This is what I have one monitor ( the main monitor ) 1920 x 1080 at 60 Hz and (the second montior) one at 1366X768 at 60 Hz.
I want them set at different resolutions not both at 1366X768.

KDE “Personal Settings”> “Display and Monitor”> “Mutiple Monitors” shows only the 1920X1080 monitor and tells me I have no more monitors.
“Configure Nvidia X Settings”> “X Server Display Configuration” Shows the second monitor as disabled but detects it.
It will not detect where and what filename it’s supposed to change and even if it did it would not be able to change anything in etc/X11/ as it’s not got those rights and I see no way to obtain them even if I knew the proper directory and filename.
YAST has no dual monitor configuration tool.

I need an answer besides X11 and KDE 4 is broken.

Hi
All I did was set the no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
nomodeset in grub options, then dropped to runlevel 3 and installed
the nvidia driver then back to the desktop and ran gnomesu
nvidia-settings to configure the two monitors and create
the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.

Currently running 1280x1024 as primary, secondary is 1680x1050.


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop
up 1 day 11:53, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.07, 0.06
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 270.41.06

Why are these “no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
nomodeset in grub options” incatations necessary when the nvidia stuff can be installed from YAST Software Management?

What does the ability to successfully edit grub have to do with my ability to run two monitors? Not trying to be a smart ass but I want to know “why”. You see I need to disconnect two other hard drives again so I can muck with grub and make sure it doesn’t touch the mbr or any other parts of those other drives all while hoping I don’t muck up grub and become unbootable. I seem to have a Nvidia drive installed and I beleive I am using it right now. Are you saying that I may not be as well?

When you go to “Personal Settings”> “Display and Monitor”>Size and Orientations. can you see the 2 monitors ?

BTW, is the second monitor plugged in and powered when you restart your computer ?

Hi,

when you say that the Nvidia tool can’t save anything, you know that you should be running it as root, right?

If you don’t it indeed can’t write the new config file.

HTH

Lenwolf

Yes I can see both monitors and I have had the monitor turned on the whole time (booting wiht it on) I have been trying to configure it.
http://www.slhess.com/pictures/nvtwo.jpg

Following malcolmlewis’s general outline I was able to get the second monitor going using kdesu nvidia settings in place of gnomesu and saving the file as /etc/x11.conf

If I enable a separate x session for each monitor I get no keyboard input on the second monitor. If I disable a saparate x session I lose my view of “that desktop” when I switch to one of the other six desktops I have enabled on that machine.

I would love to be running different x-sessions and have keyboard focus follow the mouse.

Thanks to everyone.

On 2011-05-05 07:06, FlameBait wrote:
> Why are these “no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
> nomodeset in grub options” incatations necessary when the nvidia stuff
> can be installed from YAST Software Management?

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

On 05/04/2011 09:06 PM, FlameBait wrote:
>
> malcolmlewis;2335186 Wrote:
>> Hi
>> All I did was set the no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
>> nomodeset in grub options, then dropped to runlevel 3 and installed
>> the nvidia driver then back to the desktop and ran gnomesu
>> nvidia-settings to configure the two monitors and create
>> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
>>
>> Currently running 1280x1024 as primary, secondary is 1680x1050.
>>
>> –
>> Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
>> openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop
>> up 1 day 11:53, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.07, 0.06
>> GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 270.41.06
>
> Why are these “no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
> nomodeset in grub options” incatations necessary when the nvidia stuff
> can be installed from YAST Software Management?

Because with the complexity of writing for all the different
combinations of systems out there. No way to test it all. Just too
many variables.

> What does the ability to successfully edit grub have to do with my
> ability to run two monitors? Not trying to be a smart ass but I want to

You’re making system changes, not just user desktop settings. Since
you’re doing it globally, you need to edit system files. You’re telling
the kernel an X to ‘boot up like this…’. You typically do that in the
/boot/grub/menu.lst.

> know “why”. You see I need to disconnect two other hard drives again so
> I can muck with grub and make sure it doesn’t touch the mbr or any other
> parts of those other drives all while hoping I don’t muck up grub and
> become unbootable. I seem to have a Nvidia drive installed and I beleive
> I am using it right now. Are you saying that I may not be as well?

Not sure why you would need to disconnect drives to edit grub. If you
want to test it on a one time basis w/o editing sysconfig files when you
boot just add nomodeset to the arguments line on the login screen. If
it works and you want to make it permanent, su to root, cd to
/boot/grub/ and edit menu.lst. No need to disconnect drives to do that.
Actually, you can even set the grub line via the sysconfig editor in
YaST as well. Forget the exact name of the place to set it (I’m on a
Debian system at the moment) but it’s not hard to find.

HTH…

…Kevin

Kevin Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
“In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car.”

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