So new to linux I sqeek - I don't have a clue , where are the apps loading to?

Im serious…I just came off the boat , where are the packages loading too…i see some sitting in ‘recently installed’ and there’s one i installed from the software management app …and that one is not anywhere i can find! says its loaded …its has a check box that says it is installed… i dont get any of this.:X

I tryed to get more widgets…i install them …they have check box saying they are…but are not in the widgets dock…not in recently installed either …something is not right?

what i dont get is the one i installed inside the software manager…thats just not anywhere…

its a KDE kicker applet -

im so confused, i need a starters how to for the beginner …is that anywhere in the linux opensuse site?

im useing opensuse 12.3 64bit
realy tryen to get off of windows.

thanks in advance

Try starting with the openSUSE documentation - it can be found:

http://doc.opensuse.org/

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

you can read through openSUSE guide here to get the hang of things . Best of luck
openSUSE 12.3: Start-Up

On 2013-04-17 02:06, alienbee wrote:

> Im serious…I just came off the boat , where are the packages loading
> too…i see some sitting in ‘recently installed’ and there’s one i
> installed from the software management app …and that one is not
> anywhere i can find! says its loaded …its has a check box that says it
> is installed… i dont get any of this.:X

What is that package you installed?

You can, for example, open the yast package manager, search for that
package, and if it is installed there will be a tab where you can
display the list of files it installed.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

First, welcome to the openSUSE forum. We are here to help you in any way we can to use and understand how openSUSE works.

In addition, how about some help with the Linux Folder names? There are various names that already exist and this is where your installed programs get placed. Have a look at this link: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and here is a PDF you can read and save on your local system if you like: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.pdf

Linux uses a unified file structure where all “mounted” partitions are just folder names from the original root file system. There is no C: drive or D: drive but in Linux, I could mount the WIndow C: drive as /windows/C for instance if I wished and if I had a D: drive, it could be /windows/D if I wanted to mount it that way to relate to how it was used in Windows.

It is OK to be new and not understand, we all had to start somewhere.

Thank You,

On 04/17/2013 02:06 AM, alienbee wrote:
>
>
> KDE … need a starters how to for the beginner

here is a smooth quick start on KDE
http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/art.kdequick.html

take your time…
there are LOTs of things different…

if your rush around not knowing what you are doing and add stuff and
delete stuff you will wreck your system, surely!


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

thanks so much guys for the links…I have sooo much to learn - have like 10 minute break here so will need to come back and sit down and get to learning…=)

@robin

this is the the app i installed it was from in the RPM groups list

==============

kde3-kima - A KDE Kicker Applet

/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/libkima.la
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/libkima.so
/opt/kde3/share/apps/kicker
/opt/kde3/share/apps/kicker/applets
/opt/kde3/share/apps/kicker/applets/kima.desktop
/opt/kde3/share/doc/HTML/en/kima
/opt/kde3/share/doc/HTML/en/kima/common
/opt/kde3/share/doc/HTML/en/kima/index.cache.bz2
/opt/kde3/share/doc/HTML/en/kima/index.docbook
/opt/kde3/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/opt/kde3/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/opt/kde3/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/opt/kde3/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/opt/kde3/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/opt/kde3/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/opt/kde3/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/kima.mo
/usr/share/doc/packages/kde3-kima
/usr/share/doc/packages/kde3-kima/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/packages/kde3-kima/COPYING
/usr/share/doc/packages/kde3-kima/ChangeLog
/usr/share/doc/packages/kde3-kima/README
/usr/share/doc/packages/kde3-kima/TODO

================

you guys are so helpful seriously…thanks again…Ill sit down and some learning -

Are you sure you use KDE 3 as your desktop environment? I don’t think that applet will work on KDE 4.

On 2013-04-18 04:16, alienbee wrote:

> @robin
>
> this is the the app i installed it was from in the RPM groups list
>
> ==============
>
>
> KDE3-KIMA - A KDE KICKER APPLET

Ok, that’s an applet for KDE3. It is strange that you use kde3, but
usually you right click on the panel bar, select add applet, and search
for the one you want. I’m saying that from memory, I have not done that
in a long time.

Just one detail, the next time you post something like that, please use
code tags. Advanced editor, ‘#’ button.
Posting in
Code Tags - A Guide

> you guys are so helpful seriously…thanks again…Ill sit down and some
> learning -

Welcome.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

ahh! :X
just went to system info and seen i am in KDE 4

thanks

k, will do next time for code -
found out im in KDE4 just now…
didnt think to check with app versions being from 3 or 4 -
guess that was a big change in release to have it not work from one release to the next

will uninstall and pick apps that are built for KDE 4

thanks :slight_smile:

Let me say that just becuase it is for KDE3 does not mean it will not work with KDE4, but you would look for a KDE4 alternative first and I am thinking complaining about the two not working together will not garner much sympathy. That being said, I do load some KDE3 games like KPOKER, a KDE3 application which seems to work just fine in KDE4. So no one is going to shoot you for the mix of applications and if you know what you are doing, the right application may even be very acceptable. Further, and this is a big one, if the KDE3 app is in the normal openSUSE or Packman repositories, that is, you are using KDE4, but KDE3 apps can be installed from the repositories you have with out adding in a KDE3 one, no harm should come from trying that application. It may not work and you may not find someone to complain to but the fact they are together indicates some compatibility and one you can even complain about through one of the normal channels, like Novell Bugzilla for instance. Still, if there was a problem, I would suggest straight up, get rid of the KDE3 application and go on to the next problem.

Thank You,

ok.
thanks for the reply

On 2013-04-18 19:56, alienbee wrote:
> k, will do next time for code -
> found out im in KDE4 just now…
> didnt think to check with app versions being from 3 or 4 -
> guess that was a big change in release to have it not work from one
> release to the next

It is a long story.

Yes, kde4 is very different from kde3. Many applications had to be
largely rewritten to work in kde4, and that took time. It caused pain,
kde4 had been released before it was ready.

There were (still are) many people than preferred kde3 to kde4, to such
extent that a volunteer group went forward and kept kde3 working. Even
though the official KDE developers had abandoned kde3, this people took
over and have been maintaining kde3 since them. We should be proud of that.

openSUSE is probably the only mainstream distribution that still has kde
3 available, and this makes many people very happy (and some other
people hate this, thinking that it is a waste of resources). It is best
not to argue, let each one do what the likes or chooses.

Some kde3 applications can run under kde4, but that’s not always the
case. It is possible that installing a single kde3 application makes the
package manager to also install whatever things it wants from kde3. You
may want to purge your system.

There are some kde3 applications that have not been ported to kde4 at
all. I use two of them, kbabel and rekall.

> will uninstall and pick apps that are built for KDE 4

That will probably be the best for you.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

ahh got it…thanks for the great explanation !! two thumbs up!..slowly learning my way around , realy loving the new experience of OpeneSuse 12.3!! 10 stars!!
nice bunch of folk too…:slight_smile:

cheers -

On 04/25/2013 08:06 PM, alienbee wrote:
> loving the new experience of OpeneSuse

then, please spell it correctly:

openSUSE

and, there remains a “SUSE”, but that is a different product, and
address (www.suse.com)

historically, working backwards it was:
openSUSE
SUSE
SuSE
S.u.S.E.

cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions


dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!

applesauce …

got it