6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 4:30am
1
First off, I apologize. This is for a Fedora OS computer (I do have openSUSE on another comp.) but the fedora forums never give me a response (including this time) and these openSUSE forums are always very knowledgeable and helpful. So that said…
I keep starting up the computer and I’m not able to get far (although it’s not always at the same time) before my screen will go black, except it shows the mouse/cursor - but it’s frozen, and then the caps-lock light starts blinking and I can’t do anything or get it to recover. It ONLY occurs after I log in to wireless network.
How do I stop this and diagnose this?
I’ve tried, in the boot-startup to choose an older kernel version, but the same thing occurs! And this was working for months and now is not.
caf4926
December 14, 2009, 4:42am
2
Why do you think this has started happening. I take it this is not a new install. Has there been a kernel update (Is that why you tried some of the older kernels?)
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 4:48am
3
That’s the weird thing: NO kernel updates or anything! In fact the only “unusual” thing is that I haven’t used the computer in 10 days. That’s it.
I have no idea what could have caused this to start ocurring and I don’t know how to diagnose it.
caf4926
December 14, 2009, 5:03am
4
At the loading of the grub, you have to be quick, but you need to bring up the menu. IIRC you then need to press the letter ‘a’ to edit the arguments - at the end of the line type this acpi=off
If that doesn’t work try: noapic
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 5:06am
5
caf4926:
At the loading of the grub, you have to be quick, but you need to bring up the menu. IIRC you then need to press the letter ‘a’ to edit the arguments - at the end of the line type this acpi=off
If that doesn’t work try: noapic
I did it with acpi=off and this time it still froze but with the screen showing instead of it being blank. (And caps-lock still blinked)
caf4926
December 14, 2009, 5:17am
6
Do you have ssh enabled into the Fedora unit?
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 5:25am
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I believe I do, but not sure, but how could I even use it if I can’t get it on to the network?
caf4926
December 14, 2009, 5:36am
9
Forget ssh for now.
Use ‘a’ to edit the boot and this time press backspace to erase everything and just type: 3
Login at the CLI with your username and pass.
Now type: su (hit enter)
type: yum update
see if it lists any
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 5:50am
10
caf4926:
Forget ssh for now.
Use ‘a’ to edit the boot and this time press backspace to erase everything and just type: 3
Login at the CLI with your username and pass.
Now type: su (hit enter)
type: yum update
see if it lists any
OK, I tried that but had a few problems:
Doesn’t “yum update” just try to update? Not list the recent ones?
It tried to connect but obviously could not get online
Then it said it was setting up update and printed about 200+ lines that scrolled by so quickly I couldn’t read what things it was printing.
How am I supposed to use that command in a non-scrolling window to get info on updates? Sorry, i must be misunderstanding you.
caf4926
December 14, 2009, 5:53am
11
Is there any way you can hardwire it with eth cable?
yum check-update
will list avail
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 6:01am
12
Yeah, I can hardwire it tomorrow night. thanks, we’ll pick this up again then.
THANK you again, and hopefully we can figure this out
caf4926
December 14, 2009, 6:15am
13
6tr6tr:
Yeah, I can hardwire it tomorrow night. thanks, we’ll pick this up again then.
THANK you again, and hopefully we can figure this out
That’s fine. But you didn’t say if you had any particular video driver. Have you blacklisted the Nouveau driver? Maybe you look at re-enabling it.
Did you try level 3 to init5 then startx
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 10:40pm
14
caf4926:
That’s fine. But you didn’t say if you had any particular video driver. Have you blacklisted the Nouveau driver? Maybe you look at re-enabling it.
Did you try level 3 to init5 then startx
This is my display info:
Vendor: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
And i did do level 3 (at grub, type “a” and then only put 3, deleting everything else). I did see some “Problem…” stuff at the beginning but it goes by so fast that it’s useless.
6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 10:44pm
15
Also, here’s the output of “yum check-updates” although since I typed “yum update” lasst night during level 3, didn’t that set everything to update?
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00
adobe-linux-i386/primary | 12 kB 00:00
adobe-linux-i386 17/17
updates/metalink | 14 kB 00:00
updates | 4.4 kB 00:00
updates/primary_db | 4.8 MB 00:02
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6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 10:45pm
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…continued from previous post…
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6tr6tr
December 14, 2009, 10:45pm
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…last part…
sos.noarch 1.8-18.fc11 updates
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symlinks.i586 1.4-2.fc11 updates
system-config-firewall.noarch 1.2.16-3.fc11 updates
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yum-utils.noarch 1.1.23-1.fc11 updates
caf4926
December 15, 2009, 4:13am
18
Looks like an update is a good idea. What version of Fedora is it?
6tr6tr
December 15, 2009, 4:17am
19
Fedora 11. I didn’t want to do an update until I checked back in with you but if you think it might help, should I just plug it in wired and do “yum update”? Will that update everything?
caf4926
December 15, 2009, 4:22am
20
Yes. Wired. Then update.
