right alt key doesn't work

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#1

I recently made some changes to my keyboard layout, like adding in the
us_intl keyboard and the Filipino keyboard to my normal US keyboard. I
also made the right windows key to become the compose key. In addition I
changed from a Generic 101 key keyboard to the A4Tech KB-21 keyboard.
This is for my Box #1, and it was all done in KDE System-Settings ->
Input devices.

After this, my right alt key no longer functions like an alt key. I
prefer my right alt key to have the same behavior as my left alt key.
When I run xev, I show that the right alt key and left alt key behave
as follows:


KeyPress event, serial 39, synthetic NO, window 0x8000001,
root 0x15f, subw 0x0, time 45742206, (162,-17), root:(1489,7),
state 0x2010, keycode 108 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift),
same_screen YES,
XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 92
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 39, synthetic NO, window 0x8000001,
root 0x15f, subw 0x0, time 45742722, (162,-17), root:(1489,7),
state 0x2090, keycode 108 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift),
same_screen YES,
XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 92
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 39, synthetic NO, window 0x8000001,
root 0x15f, subw 0x0, time 45744900, (162,-17), root:(1489,7),
state 0x2010, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 39, synthetic NO, window 0x8000001,
root 0x15f, subw 0x0, time 45745186, (162,-17), root:(1489,7),
state 0x2018, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

You can see that the first key press is the right alt, and it is saying
that it is “ISO_Level3_Shift”. However the 2nd key press is the left
alt, and it reads as “Alt_L”.

How can I make the right alt key read as “Alt_R”? I tried switching
through all 3 different keyboards and testing it, and no change. I also
tried eliminating the compose key (even though it is right-win and not
right-alt), and it also showed no change. I then tried going back to the
Generic 101 key keyboard, and it still maps that key to “ISO_Level3_Shift”.

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G.O.
Box #1: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 16GB
Box #2: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | 4GB
Laptop: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | 8GB

#2

On 2013-10-29 09:07, grglsn wrote:

> After this, my right alt key no longer functions like an alt key.

On non English keyboards, the right alt key doesn’t work as Alt, but
AltGr. It is a feature. Intentional.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

#3

On 10/29/2013 10:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-10-29 09:07, grglsn wrote:
>
>> After this, my right alt key no longer functions like an alt key.
>
> On non English keyboards, the right alt key doesn’t work as Alt, but
> AltGr. It is a feature. Intentional.
>

Ok, when I placed my keyboard layout in the “English (US)”
configuration, the right Alt key still did not function as Alt-R. It
only functioned as AltGr. Is this a KDE bug?

So I tried going into Yast and modifying the language settings there. I
have the primary language set there as English (US). There is a checkbox
that says “Adapt keyboard layout to English (US)”. I checked it and hit
ok. This allowed me to use the Right Alt key as I prefer now.

However, this is not solved. Now, I can no longer toggle to one of the
international keyboards - it seems this setting in Yast blocked out the
international keyboard settings for KDE. I tried opening up the dialog
again in Yast, but the setting is now grayed out, and I cannot uncheck
the box that adopted keyboard settings to English (US).

I don’t know which variable to set to undue this setting, as it is
unclear to me, in /etc/sysconfig/language.

–
G.O.
Box #1: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 16GB
Box #2: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | 4GB
Laptop: 12.3 | KDE 4.10 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | 8GB

#4

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2013-10-29 09:07, grglsn wrote:
>
>> After this, my right alt key no longer functions like an alt key.
>
> On non English keyboards, the right alt key doesn’t work as Alt, but
> AltGr. It is a feature. Intentional.
>

Correction - English GB is also set to use AltGr.
Perhaps its only English US that uses Right Alt.

#5

On 2013-10-30 09:17, graham wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Correction - English GB is also set to use AltGr.
> Perhaps its only English US that uses Right Alt.

I thought that might be the case, but I was not sure.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

#6

On 2013-10-30 07:49, grglsn wrote:

> Ok, when I placed my keyboard layout in the “English (US)”
> configuration, the right Alt key still did not function as Alt-R. It
> only functioned as AltGr. Is this a KDE bug?

Possibly. Try report in bugzilla.

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reports

> However, this is not solved. Now, I can no longer toggle to one of the
> international keyboards - it seems this setting in Yast blocked out the
> international keyboard settings for KDE. I tried opening up the dialog
> again in Yast, but the setting is now grayed out, and I cannot uncheck
> the box that adopted keyboard settings to English (US).

Weird.

>
> I don’t know which variable to set to undue this setting, as it is
> unclear to me, in /etc/sysconfig/language.

No, it is in “/etc/sysconfig/keyboard”, at least for text mode.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)