Using OS 11.2, KDE 4.5 from 11.2 Factory.
I have an ATI xpress 200M.
Using the opensource radeon driver and xorg from the xorg repsitory.
I can enable desktop effects & they have been running fine for some time (no crashes).
About a month ago, X started crashing out & KDM started up.
I’ve found out how to trigger it, so I was wondering if anyone else had this:
Enable desktop effects, use Default settings for everything.
Apply settings.
Open any window & minimise it
Attempt to show the window by clicking on the taskbar entry.
Xorg should crash.
Disable Desktop Effects, and apply settings
Open, minimise & show a window: xorg will not crash now.
I’ve attached xorg.0.log from when the crash happens as well: 2479.067] (II) RADEON(0): - Xorg Crash - bkgEFttr - Pastebin.com](http://pastebin.com/bkgEFttr)
The crash occurs at line 141
I can put a bug report (should it be for X or for KDE?).
Segfault is very serious.
File a bug against X and append the log. They can re-assign the bug if it’s more KDE related (I don’t think so…).
Also have a look at dmesg and /var/log/messages for additional error messages.
Desktop effects are enabled on flarktop
for testing purposes right now, normally I work without them because it’s a lot faster without on this videocard. - Normally I tend to work with LXDE*****
because the flarktop is a bit old (2005) and technically not the best equipped system within my arsenal. It’s sturdy though… and when I have the time I really like working with KDE because it’s looks and deeper philosophy cannot be beaten, all imho.
I’ve done a side-by side comparison to mine (I’ve posted mine here as well) and it seems I am missing two packages:
xorg-x11-driver-video-nouveau (I actually deleted this package in Yast)
xorg-x11-fonts (I only have fonts-core, you have both, no idea why)
My versions are later than yours as well:
You Me
xorg-x11-7.5-11.3 xorg-x11-7.5-67.1
xorg-x11-server-7.5_1.8.0-10.3.1 xorg-x11-server-7.5_1.9.0-76.1
Mesa-7.8.2-1.3 Mesa-7.8.2-39.1
Sorry for the formatting
What repo are you getting those packages from? I’m using X11:xorg, I’ve not locked the versions & I update pretty regularly.
Yeah, still on 11.2. I don’t have an xorg.conf anyway. X does select the right driver (radeon) for my card & it’s all perfectly nice as long as I don’t turn effects on. As soon as I do, X segfaults.
Before getting X from OBS, I had to use vesa driver - radeon driver did NOT work for this card.
When I first started getting X from the OBS (I did this because I needed the newer Mesa & radeon driver from there) everything worked including effects, no crashes using radeon driver.
Some updates from OBS later, and effects still worked until I ‘unminimised’ a window, whereupon X segfaulted.
Some more updates from OBS (current time) and now even enabling desktop effects makes X segfault.
With no effects turned on, everything works just fine.
By OBS I mean the X11:xorg repository. I’m unsure if OBS is the right term for that.
I think I just need to downgrade my versions (perhaps to what flark has) to make it all work again. I’m not sure how to get those specific versions though.
EDIT: Hmmm, I have forgotten one thing to try: make a fresh user & try that, perhaps something is awry with ~/.kde4
I’ll try & post results.
That would have been my next one. Since it worked, I would say it’s some stored config value, might even be just some remains of a plasmoid…Before you remove your entire ~/.kde4, please first only remove the plasma files from ~/.kde4/share/config and see if it works on a default desktop appearance. A customer had some old photo-plasmoid that made X crash. Removing the plasmoid did not help, removing the plasmafiles did.
Ok, created a new user & logged in. Desktop effects were enabled & working! Yay! Not quite so good though:
I can open windows & move them around, change workspaces, maximise & minimise.
Interacting with the systray plasmoid crashes X (segfault)
Interacting with the Folder View plasmoid segfaults X too
I’m not sure what else will crash X, I suspect any plasmoid might well do it, but I didn’t try adding a new plasmoid to check.
The plasmoids only crash X if I interact with them for more than a few seconds, eg hovering over the kmix applet won’t break it, but moving the mouse around over the icons will eventually (>3-4 seconds) cause a segfault. I don’t have to click anything, hovering is enough. Same with the Folder View. Not sure if the kickoff menu is a plasmoid, doing stuff with it doesn’t crash X.
So it seems its an interaction of kwin + plasmoids/plasma + X, not just an X issue.
I’ll try ‘upgrading’ KDE4 from Factory (11.2 Factory) to the new 45 repo to see if that stabilises it, I’ll post results.
Ok, thats made it worse - during the update (switch packages) some xorg stuff got updated as well, the only one i saw was libpixman but I’m sure there were others too. Now X won’t start at all - not even kdm!
It will start if I generate an xorg.conf (Xorg -configure) and change the driver from radeon to vesa.
Anything i can do to sort this out?
