Recommendations for replacing flash

robertsmits · July 16, 2015, 10:56pm

I run a number of Opensuse 13.1 KDE systems, along with firefox.

What recommendations are there to replace Flash to show videos when I’m in Firefox?

wolfi323 · July 16, 2015, 11:03pm

Certain sites (like youtube) do offer videos in HTML5 format instead of flash. You might have to activate that, or it might be used automatically if flash-player is not installed. You do need the corresponding codecs though. Firefox uses gstreamer (in 13.1 gstreamer-0_10) for HTML5 video playback, so make sure you have all gstreamer-0_10-plugins packages from Packman installed.

Or install freshplayer-plugin (also available on Packman) to use Google’s chromium-pepper-flash (flash-player version 18 for chromium) in Firefox.

robertsmits · July 17, 2015, 2:49am

Thanks for your advice. On one of my laptops, this worked most of the time .(Installing gstreamer codecs, fresh-player) but on my desktop, many videos now simply do not play.

When I go to BBC News, for example, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33557905#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa, It insists I need Flash to play video.

Anyone want to suggest other workarounds?

Thanks, Bob

nrickert · July 17, 2015, 5:44am

Fresh player is supposed to give you flash. Did you install chromium-pepper-flash (from packman). And note that chromium-pepper-flash was updated to the latest flash release (I think 18.0.0.209).

robin_listas · July 17, 2015, 11:54am

On 2015-07-17 05:46, nrickert wrote:
>
> robertsmits;2719853 Wrote:
>> TWhen I go to BBC News, for example, at http://tinyurl.com/pszhawv, It
>> insists I need Flash to play video.
>
> Fresh player is supposed to give you flash.

But the reason distributors like radio stations (must) use flash is
about rights management, and they do it with code (in flash). Do those
alternatives support that?

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

keellambert · July 17, 2015, 11:58am

fwiw

after the following changes made, had no problems with videos on the BBC web site

< ---rqa-A780GM-m1-150716.txt---           > ---rqa-A780GM-m1-150717.txt---
<                                          > chromium-pepper-flash-18.0.0.209-1.1.x86_64
<                                          > freshplayerplugin-0.3.0-5.1.x86_64
< flash-plugin-11.2.202.491-release.x86_64 > 
<                                          > libconfig9-1.5-1.2.x86_64
<                                          > libsoxr0-0.1.1-5.1.x86_64
< pullin-flash-player-12.3-7.1.x86_64      > 

NB: flash-player, flash-player-kde4 not installed

thx for the info

cheers

wolfi323 · July 17, 2015, 12:09pm

Yes.

chromium-pepper-flash is Google’s updated Flash-Player (version 18, like Adobe’s Windows version) for Chromium.
And freshplayer-plugin is a wrapper/bridge to use it in Firefox and other NPAPI-compliant browsers.

wolfi323 · July 17, 2015, 12:46pm

PS: the latest Adobe flash-player 11.2.202.491 has been released as official update for 13.1 and 13.2 today as well.

keellambert · July 17, 2015, 4:49pm

fresh in firefox does not have full screen capability,
just get a black screen with mouse pointer showing

gone back to flash-plugin-11.2.202.491-release.x86_64

nrickert · July 17, 2015, 4:58pm

Interesting.

I’ve stayed with regular flash. I haven’t tried fresh-player/chromium-pepper-flash (except when running chromium).

The main reason that have stayed with flash, is that it is reliably updated to solve security problems. Whoever is maintaining chromium-pepper-flash doesn’t always update to the newer version.

consused · July 17, 2015, 5:34pm

Hmm. I’ve just put chromium on Tumbleweed, in spite of reservations about Google. I must say it generally performs very well including BBC iPlayer. Now disappointed to hear your comment re pepper-flash, although Tw’s flash-player is still out-dated at 11.2.202.481.

[FONT=arial]PS. 13.1 is ok after today’s flash-player update. Firefox, [/FONT]still at 38.0.1, [FONT=arial]is back to normal re flash with no click message. [/FONT]

nrickert · July 17, 2015, 6:08pm

My 13.1 system (32-bit) updated firefox to version 39.0 around 1.5 days ago. But Tumbleweed is still at 38.0.something as of the most recent update.

user · July 18, 2015, 9:33pm

It would appear that on Jul 17, nrickert did say:

> keellambert;2719904 Wrote:
> > fresh in firefox does not have full screen capability,
> > just get a black screen with mouse pointer showing
> >
> > gone back to flash-plugin-11.2.202.491-release.x86_64
>
> Interesting.
>
> I’ve stayed with regular flash. I haven’t tried
> fresh-player/chromium-pepper-flash (except when running chromium).
>
> The main reason that have stayed with flash, is that it is reliably
> updated to solve security problems. Whoever is maintaining
> chromium-pepper-flash doesn’t always update to the newer version.

Don’t know if it’s significant or not. But Hulu now offers Showtime as an
add on service, to which I was offered a free month. It includes a way to
stream current live content from Showtime East & Showtime West.

I had a problem with viewing the “Live” content from my Opensuse 13.2
installation. One of the helpful suggestions the hulu support team offered
included this:

========================

Worth noting perhaps is that Chromium (with Pepper Flash) failed at the same
point as either Opera or Firefox did. (never installed fresh) But with
either of those browsers, the player window displayed a hulu error message.
But with Chromium (WITH Pepper Flash) All I got was a blank player window
like keellambert described using fresh… Except that it wasn’t only the
full screen capability that was blacked out.

My problem with Hulu’s live showtime streaming is becomming moot, as I’m
about to cancel that part of my Hulu account anyway. And untill then, if I
really want to check out the “live” content, I can access it by rebooting
into my Mageia 5 distribution. Then firefox, with Flash 11 does the job.

–
JtWdyP

robertsmits · July 20, 2015, 2:27am

Yes, I did. That is the version I have, too.

robertsmits · July 20, 2015, 2:53am

keellambert:

fwiw

after the following changes made, had no problems with videos on the BBC web site

&lt; ---rqa-A780GM-m1-150716.txt---           &gt; ---rqa-A780GM-m1-150717.txt---
&lt;                                          &gt; chromium-pepper-flash-18.0.0.209-1.1.x86_64
&lt;                                          &gt; freshplayerplugin-0.3.0-5.1.x86_64
&lt; flash-plugin-11.2.202.491-release.x86_64 &gt; 
&lt;                                          &gt; libconfig9-1.5-1.2.x86_64
&lt;                                          &gt; libsoxr0-0.1.1-5.1.x86_64
&lt; pullin-flash-player-12.3-7.1.x86_64      &gt; 
------

Thanks for your help. I removed flash-player and flash-player-kde4 , installed freshplayerplugin and chromium-pepper-flash, flash-plugin-11.2.202.491 and pullin-flash-player
12.3-4.1.2 and it worked for the BBC video. Neither of the lib files appear to be available for opensuse 13.1

Tnx

wolfi323 · July 20, 2015, 1:49pm

You don’t need pullin-flash-player. That’s just a dummy package that makes sure that flash-player gets installed after the installation (because it is not in the OSS Repo, but Non-OSS).

12.3-4.1.2 and it worked for the BBC video. Neither of the lib files appear to be available for opensuse 13.1

They are unrelated to Flash.

libsoxr is available on Packman for 13.1 too, though.
But it’s only used/required by audacious.

And 13.1 does contain libconfig9 in the standard repo.
But as with libsoxr0 there’s no need to install it manually, and it doesn’t make sense at all. It will be installed automatically if some other package needs it.

karlmistelberger · August 16, 2015, 3:55pm

Firefox stopped playing flash with Adobe flash player… So I installed chromium-pepper-flash and Firefox now says: need plugin to display content.

nrickert · August 16, 2015, 4:00pm

You need to install “freshplayerplugin” if you want firefox to use pepper-flash

karlmistelberger · August 16, 2015, 4:14pm

Sorry for being too terse. I have:

erlangen:~ # rpm -qa|grep flash
chromium-pepper-flash-18.0.0.209-1.1.x86_64
pullin-flash-player-12.3-6.4.1.x86_64

erlangen:~ # rpm -qa|grep Firefox
MozillaFirefox-40.0-38.1.x86_64
MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE-40-4.3.1.x86_64
MozillaFirefox-translations-common-40.0-38.1.x86_64

erlangen:~ # rpm -qa|grep fresh
freshplayerplugin-0.3.1-10.2.x86_64

robin_listas · August 16, 2015, 8:55pm

On 2015-08-16 15:56, karlmistelberger wrote:
>
> Firefox stopped playing flash with Adobe flash player…

Not to my knowledge. It works here.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)