On 08/10/2011 01:16 PM, russ hay wrote:
> Okay, it’s out there, I’m fed up with fonts on Linux.
so? did someone force you to use Linux?
> Every Distro is different,
YES! isn’t it grand! you have the freedom to choose which ever one you
like the best…and, they all are free and open source…
> there are 50 zillion fonts installed by default,
i don’t think so, i’ve not counted but i think it is far less than
100…probably less than either of the two much more costly alternatives…
> but the
> forums are still filled up with ‘how do I get Verdana onto Suse’?
yes, i can’t understand it either–i also think Verdana is uglier than dirt.
but wait! all of those folks who ask how to install Verdana, they do get
answered, right? and it is not really so complicated, right?
so, what is your problem? you want it free AND born exactly the way you
like it?? with exactly the fonts you like best…what about the other
thousands of users, do they also have to have exactly the fonts that you
want…should everyone get exactly the fonts that they want? now we
might be talking zillions of fonts… see?
> Can we (as a distro!)
“we”? i see you have been here a year and a half and asked for help
twice… how does that make us a “we”?
> get on the front-foot with this? Rather than rely
> on ‘how to get good looking fonts in 11.x’ articles, maybe we can just
> get some preconfigured settings in a script that give some options on
you are free to write the script, and the how-to to go with it…and
put it in our community how-to forum, at http://tinyurl.com/5v6ssca
i look forward to finding it there…and, when i do i will agree with
> 1. purely open source (freetype with hinting, liberation fonts etc)
> 2. looks like win/xp/7
> 3. Looks like MAC
great idea! but, i hope your script gives folks the freedom to not
have what you had before (with either Windows or Mac) as i prefer
pretty much what openSUSE 11.4 was born with.
but, i wouldn’t want to impress my font desires on you, and hope you
will offer me the same courtesy…
> then people can hint and tweak to their hearts content.
can people not now? what stops them from tweaking?
what is stopping you from having the fonts exactly the way you want them?
> This isn’t a
> matter of copying another O/S - but understanding that users come from
> different environments, and they want ‘what they had before’.
then let them roll up their sleeves fix it the way they want it!
but, if they are not willing to do that, as far as i am concerned they
are free to make the decision to use something else…i don’t know but
maybe they would like Ubuntu better…or, Win8…or maybe they want to
join the openSUSE developers and put a menu item in the install script
so the user from other environments can select to install an Atari look
alike…or a PlayStation clone, or or or or as many different
environment look-alikes as you/they want to build.
> Maybe this isn’t the final package, but we need to offer something
> to give users an steer…
we? there is that ‘we’ again.
give? we gave. if they don’t wish to give themselves the fonts they want
by tweaking as much as they want, you think we should GIVE them what?
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!