RCT2 wont start under normal user

crosswinds · June 18, 2010, 6:31pm

Hello!

Ive get Rollercoaster tycoon 2 to run fine!! but just under the superuser root. (And i dont have sound under the root user, right?)

did a clean install as my normal user, but i get a question, wich the text are messed up in, but i think it wants the program directory.and the textbox says ./ as default.

This was not needed as root, and yes i have the nocd exe file. (Dont think it asks for the cd actually)

crosswinds · June 18, 2010, 7:49pm

I got it to work.

Have to start it in the folder and not point to it.

DenverD · June 19, 2010, 12:03pm

crosswinds wrote:
> Ive get Rollercoaster tycoon 2 to run fine!! but just under the
> superuser root. (And i dont have sound under the root user, right?)

you should never log into KDE/Gnome/XFCE or any other *nix-like
graphical user interface desktop environment as root…

doing so 1) opens you up to several different security problems, 2)
too many too easy ways to damage your system no matter how careful
your actions (example: just browsing in your home directory while
logged into KDE/Gnome/etc as root can lock you out later as yourself
due to permissions damage), 3) and, anyway logging into KDE/etc as
root is never required to do any and all administrative duties…

so, always log in as yourself, and “become root” by using a root
powered application (like YaST, File Manager Superuser Mode) or using
“su -”, sudo, kdesu, or gnomesu in a terminal to launch whatever tool
is needed (like Kwrite to edit a config file)…read more on all that
here:

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/root.html
http://tinyurl.com/6ry6yd
http://tinyurl.com/ydbwssh

crosswinds · June 19, 2010, 2:16pm

Thanks for your reply.

Though, i just did this for diagnostic reasons. Its an experimental system im working on.

But i actually got a new fault with rct, after no changes at all:S

When i start it i get a windows window with fault:

Error trapper:

Error location : Windows unknown driver

Why is that?

DenverD · June 19, 2010, 4:31pm

crosswinds wrote:
> Though, i just did this for diagnostic reasons.

if you learn the system runs better (or perfectly) while logged into
KED/Gnome/etc as root, how does that affect your diagnostic process?

that is, since running normally as root is NOT an option, in what way
are you then better prepared to fix the problem you are diagnosing
if it happens to run perfectly in root, which you booted to only for
“diagnostic reasons”??

what if runs worse as root? then what?

> Its an experimental system im working on.

and, since you now know you may have accidentally damaged your system
in a number of different, and non-obvious ways, by logging into
KDE/Gnome/etc as root it certainly is both experimental and of
unknown quality/stability/purity…

then only way to ensure a stable system which has not been damaged by
logging into KDE/Gnome/etc as root is to never do that… (which is
easy to do since there is NEVER any administrative task–including
diagnostic reasons–which requires logging in as root, ever)

> But i actually got a new fault with rct, after no changes at all:S

but, you don’t actually if you made “no changes at all” while logged
in as root–that is the point of not logging into the GUI as root.

btw, i have no idea what “rct” is…

> When i start it i get a windows window with fault:
> Error trapper:
> Error location : Windows unknown driver
> Why is that?

no idea, i never run Windows, ever…

perhaps you broke something while logged into the GUI as root–as
mentioned, don’t do that…

crosswinds · June 19, 2010, 5:29pm

Firstly, im getting fed up with your ****.

Where did i say that i run x11 as root?

I have run wine as root via a terminal.

I think you should just shut up when you dont have any construcitive help to give. Firstly, if you dont even know what rollercoaster tycoon 2 / RCT2 is, why the hell are you replying to this thread??

Secondly, you should read my thread througout before jumping to the conclusion that i have run x11 as root, and start flaming about that.

Third, dont get so excited when you think you know more than someone else.

and yes, i probably “broke something” while logged in as root in the gui, wich i never done. And when that happened, the computer just did alot of changes to the wine settings, wich i never looked at, as it is impossible when i never was logged in as root in x11.

Thank you very much for all your help, good knowledge, and good behaivior.

DenverD · June 19, 2010, 7:20pm

crosswinds wrote:
> Firstly, im getting fed up with your ****.

well, you put me in my place…why didn’t you say you hadn’t logged
into X the first time i posted, instead of lodging that weak excuse i
“just did this for diagnostic reasons”…

no need to answer, i’m gonna go off now and cry…
-=ploink=-

hendersj · June 19, 2010, 9:08pm

Guys, let’s keep the discussion on topic here and about the tech, not
about attacking each other.

Thanks,

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

DenverD · June 19, 2010, 9:19pm

Jim Henderson wrote:
> Guys, let’s keep the discussion on topic here and about the tech, not
> about attacking each other.

i attacked no one!

instead i ‘attacked’ improper use of the root account…and, for that
i got attacked (along with the first indication that the OP/attacker
had not done what it seemed s/he said s/he had…)

frankly i bit tired of being included as one of two bad actors every
time i get attacked for no reason!

hendersj · June 19, 2010, 9:20pm

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:19:30 +0000, DenverD wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Guys, let’s keep the discussion on topic here and about the tech, not
>> about attacking each other.
>
> i attacked no one!

Again, this was a generic reminder to everyone. If you did nothing
wrong, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Jim

–
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

DenverD · June 20, 2010, 9:34am

crosswinds wrote:
> Firstly, im getting fed up with your ****.
> Where did i say that i run x11 as root?
> I have run wine as root via a terminal.

7.11. Should I run Wine as root?

/!\ NEVER run Wine as root! Doing so gives Windows programs (and
viruses) full access to your computer and every piece of media
attached to it. Running with sudo also has these same risks but with
the added bonus of breaking the permissions on your ~/.wine folder in
the process. If you have run Wine with sudo you need to fix the
permission errors as described in the next question, and then run
winecfg to set Wine up again. You should always run Wine as the normal
user you use to login.

For Linux systems, all ideas that Wine needs root can be solved
through Posix Capabilities (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5737)
or Posix File Capabilities
(http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-posixcap.html) or
correcting other security settings.

As far as Windows programs are concerned, you are running with
administrator privileges. If an application complains about a lack of
administrator privileges, file a bug; running Wine as root probably
won’t help.

cite:
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-96bebfa287b4288974de0df23351f278b0d41014