RC1 is a wreck!

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I downloaded the 64-bit DVD version via metalink and burnt to a newish
DVD. Test showed no problems.

During the installation process, I got a couple of warnings that checksums
didn’t match and something may have been changed. As the first was for
the release notes, I wasn’t too bothered. A second one - don’t know what
it was for - bothered me a bit more but I carried on. Mistake?

Installation got as far as saying it was installing the images but then
stopped with what looked like the same problem as the beta version where
it could not get a lock on a file.

I then aborted the install. This required a hard reboot as there was no
exit from the menu, just re-entry into the installation process.

When the system booted, I got a message to say there was no bootable
medium. Luckily, I have three root partitions so did a quick install of
11.4 on a spare to get Grub up and running again.

Should 12.1 be postponed to January? That way it might be in some sort of
working order and the version number might mean something sensible.

–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

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Did you verify the checksum of the ISO before burning? Garbage-in,
garbage-out (with regard to your burn) after all.

Good luck.
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I zypper dup"ed" my 12.1 beta system today and it crashed! The /dev/ now only contains files labeled as “loop0 to loop7” and one folder “/pts”, all of which are 0bits in size. When booting all looks fine until it tries to read from the /dev/ folder, and with reason the message “Could not find /dev/sda6” is displayed.

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Test showed no problems.
Explain this

During the installation process, I got a couple of warnings that checksums
didn’t match and something may have been changed.
Did you verify the DVD?

Should 12.1 be postponed to January?
Hyperbole

Works perfectly here.

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:16:26 +0000, ab wrote:

> Did you verify the checksum of the ISO before burning? Garbage-in,
> garbage-out (with regard to your burn) after all.

As I said, I downloaded via metalink so verifying checksums is already
performed. See
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help#Downloading_via_Metalinks

–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

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Should 12.1 be postponed to January? That way it might be in some sort of
working order and the version number might mean something sensible.

Seems like a good idea, 12 being the year, then 1 for January.

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:56:02 +0000, caf4926 wrote:

> Works perfectly here.

As did 12.1 beta on one of my machines. In fact, I’ve been using it on
that machine without any dramas. However, it failed to install on another
and was next to useless on this machine. I considered 33% success rate as
not being too promising. Is that unfair?

I’ll next try RC1 on the machine that beta worked on. If that’s no good,
I’ll give the 32-bit version a whirl. Might get lucky.

–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

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Unfortunately, there may be some truth to 12.1 RC1 (and before that Beta1) DVD installer being in bad shape.

I tried to install the 32-bit DVD of 12.1 RC1 on my sandbox PC (athlon-1100 w/2GB RAM and nVidia FX5200) with nomodeset boot code. The 32-bit KDE 12.1 RC1 liveCD boots, by the way, with the nomodeset boot code (to FBDEV driver).

But the DVD won’t install. I selected a custom software and was greated with a YaST2 popup dialog box saying “UI Syntax Error, Couldn’t load plug-in qt_pkg - Check the log file”. And after clicking CLOSE, install just hung. And hung. And hung. And hung. I pressed <CTRL><ALT><F1> and noted the error : “error : can’t create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock (No such file or directory).” .

Like, the install has not even started yet, duhhh … and that error appears when I try to change the software selection for an installation.

I refuse to waste my time on this anymore.

12.1 BETA1 installer was bad. Real bad. I see no evidence that 12.1 RC1 installer has improved. Just the contrary. I got further on 12.1 BETA1 on same hardware than I did on 12.1 RC1.

I concede I have changed my mind from in 12.1 BETA1 where I expressed the view that 12.1 RC1 should be delayed by a 2 weeks to a month. My view is now wait until January or February next year, and FIX THE PROBLEMS.

… But I know such a post won’t be listened to on the mailing list any more than here on the forum. So I won’t waste my time trying any more tests. No more bug reports on the installer as they simply are not being fixed (without introducing new bugs). The time needed to fix them is NOT being given. Some one is in an awful rush, a real awful rush, to push this 12.1 out. Warts and all.

Anyway, I’ll try 12.1 GM when it comes out on a test PC, but no more wasting of my time, as I see no management attention being made to provide the packagers (of 12.1) the time they need to sort this.

Fortunately BOTH 11.3 and 11.4 work very nice for me.

Did I say someone is in a rush to PUSH out 12.1 ? … If I did not, I should have emphasized the point.

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I installed from the DVD (64 bit).

The install bombed out when I tried to select software - something about a qt module not found.
I tried again in text mode. It bombled when I tried to select software - something about a curses module not found.
Third try, I accepted the defaults for software. The install went okay.

Now, how can I get it to recognize my broadcom wifi (which worked fine with Beta1). Is that a difference due to a DVD install instead of a live CD install, or is something broken about wifi?

Otherwise doing okay thus far.

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Just tried the gnome CD RC1 on my Sons box with a nvidia card (G210 I think)
Nothing added, nothing taken away
Perfect.

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:16:02 +0000, oldcpu wrote:

> But the DVD won’t install. I selected a custom software and was greated
> with a YaST2 popup dialog box saying “UI Syntax Error, Couldn’t load
> plug-in qt_pkg - Check the log file”. And after clicking CLOSE, install
> just hung. And hung. And hung. And hung. I pressed <CTRL><ALT><F1> and
> noted the error : “error : can’t create transaction lock on
> /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock (No such file or directory).” .
>
> Like, the install has not even started yet, duhhh … and that error
> appears when I try to change the software selection for an installation.

I tried an install on a laptop and had no trouble, as with beta on that
machine. Was able to accept all the partitioning and software suggestions
etc. so that may have improved my luck.

Tried again on this machine and got a bit further than last time.
Software installed - though I had to skip several images due to checksum
errors - but it then hung with the same message you’re getting. The
difference from the laptop is that I have to create my own partitioning
on this machine.

I rebooted to see if I could get a bit further but this time it stalled
because of a perceived problem with my ext4 RAID. Got a message about a
superblock not being valid ext2. Huh?

–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

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GRUB [bug 722988] hasn’t been fixed for RC1 it seems… System is unbootable…

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This has got to be the worst RC1 release.

During the boot process, we see it switching from the graphical boot to black console prompt and back to graphical boot up.
Placing the weather plasmoid on the desktop causes the plasma desktop to crash.
Kmail keeps crashing.

We need an extra 3 - 4 weeks more to iron out the bugs out!!

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Um… NM doesn’t work properly either. Same issues as beta.

What is the point of making a release as RC1 when known issues weren’t fixed??

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Hi
Just updated my Gnome 3 desktop to RC1 (original install from the
live CD) all working fine so far.

–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop
up 1 day 7:49, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.15
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09

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I installed beta on my PC. I upgraded with zypper dup. Installation was not properly finished. I was very happy that I could boot in failsafe mode, command zypper update, I downloaded nearly 300 MB. I can boot, I have effects, I am quit satisfied. But these troubles were horrible.

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HUM… :frowning: bad news…

Just I describe my dup experience in other thread:

I don’t test the DVD yet, but zyyper dup(1490packages) from M5 works almost fine.

After upgrade boot hangs, then I boot in failsafe mode and reconfigure network, then I launch zypper update and install 147 more packages.

Reboot and all works!!!

I use Suse since 7.1, this is the first time that I see a major change in a RC, I mean systemd…

Nobody is hurry up you guys, I can wait and think that other people too :slight_smile:

Kind regards

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Um, can I add another problem? - KMenuEdit sees to be broken in RC1 (and a few previous builds - it was OK in the beta, though). New entries are apparently not saved and don’t appear in the menu. However, on further investigation, they are visible when you enable the ‘show hidden entries’ option in the ‘Settings - Configure KDE Menu Editor’ pane. Not a lot of use, though! In about 6 years of Linux use with many distos, this is a first time for this error!

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There are a lot of double entries under Office with:

  • LibreOffice Calc
  • LibreOffice Impress
  • LibreOffice Writer
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On 10/21/2011 06:20 PM, Cloddy wrote:
> As I said, I downloaded via metalink so verifying checksums is already
> performed. See
> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help#Downloading_via_Metalinks

which says “…automatic checksum verification, and automatic error
repair (depending on client used)” – did you use a client which was
capable of and did the check/repair?

and, after burning but before beginning the install did you:
http://tinyurl.com/3qde66h

all of that is to say: you should not see “warnings that checksums
didn’t match”…

–
DD
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
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