r8168/9 - stuck with no module-no internet

So… because the sh**it script from relltek, i now stuck without internet, because no module in system (i check this…).
now i wroth on fedora 18 i left before switch to opensuse 12.3.

i have download the module r8168 from relltek, but i don’t know how to fix it (commands, etc)…
pages on blogs are showing most commands to ubuntu, and of course is not working.
(and also the script from relltek is only for ubuntu… so f**ck :/)

What now?

Also, the commands i found (example here):
(run on folder module)
make clean modules
make install
Giving me only errors

And:
insmod ./src/r8168.ko
mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-uname -r uname -r
Not work - no command in system

kernel-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop
also installed (new install) - kernel-3.9.0-6-vanilla

Thanks for help,
shimi.

Without the relevant output it’s hard to say what’s going on, but let’s focus on the build failure of the driver. My bet is that you don’t have the Kernel Development pattern installed. To do so:

  • Yast - Software - Software manager
  • View - Patterns
  • Check the box in front of the “Linux Kernel Development” pattern. Accept the changes, the needed packages will be installed.
  • Reattempt compiling and installing the driver.

and for this i need internet…

is possible to export list (to text file) of packages are goto installed?
so i search one by one and downloded to install.

(sorry for double post, i don’t see edit option)

ok, i follow post example, and now only one command not work perfect - insmod ./src/r8168.ko
(insmod: can’t read ‘./src/r8168.ko’: No such file or directory)

all other commands running, and i think driver in install with no fail’s…

make clean modules:

*linux-8cs9:/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00 #* make clean modules
make -C src/ clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C /lib/modules/3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop/build SUBDIRS=/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src clean
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-obj/x86_64/desktop'
  CLEAN   /home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/.tmp_versions
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-obj/x86_64/desktop'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C src/ modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C /lib/modules/3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop/build SUBDIRS=/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-obj/x86_64/desktop'
  CC [M]  /home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.o
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:14545:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rtl8168_init_board’
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:14715:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rtl8168_init_sequence’
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:14968:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rtl8168_init_one’
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:15132:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rtl8168_remove_one’
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:17651:12: error: ‘rtl8168_init_one’ undeclared here (not in a function)
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:17652:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘__devexit_p’ -Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:17652:25: error: ‘rtl8168_remove_one’ undeclared here (not in a function)
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:17301:12: warning: ‘rtl8168_poll’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:1368:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_xmii_reset_pending’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:1383:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_xmii_link_ok’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:1395:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_xmii_reset_enable’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:1544:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_link_option’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:1823:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_set_speed_xmii’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:2151:13: warning: ‘rtl8168_gset_xmii’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:2886:13: warning: ‘rtl8168_get_mac_version’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:3002:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_print_mac_version’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:3044:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_hw_phy_config’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:13681:1: warning: ‘rtl8168_release_board’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.c:14914:17: warning: ‘rtl8168_try_msi’ defined but not used -Wunused-function]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[5]: *** [/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.o] 1 הלקת
make[4]: *** [_module_/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src] 2 הלקת
make[3]: *** [sub-make] 2 הלקת
make[2]: *** [all] 2 הלקת
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-obj/x86_64/desktop'
make[1]: *** [modules] 2 הלקת
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make: *** [modules] 2 הלקת

**תקלה\הלקת is Error**

make install:


*linux-8cs9:/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00 #* make install
make -C src/ install
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C /lib/modules/3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop/build SUBDIRS=/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src INSTALL_MOD_DIR=kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek modules_install
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-obj/x86_64/desktop'
  DEPMOD  3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-obj/x86_64/desktop'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00/src'

mkinitrd: (replace for mkinitramfs, right?)

*linux-8cs9:/home/shimi_opensuse/r8168-8.035.00 #* mkinitrd -u /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` `uname -r`

Kernel image:   /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.0-6-vanilla
Initrd image:   /boot/initrd-3.9.0-6-vanilla
Kernel Modules: <not available>
Could not find map 3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop/boot/System.map, please specify a correct file with -M.

Kernel image:   /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-default
Initrd image:   /boot/initrd-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-default
Kernel Modules: <not available>
Could not find map 3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop/boot/System.map, please specify a correct file with -M.

Kernel image:   /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop
Initrd image:   /boot/initrd-3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop
Kernel Modules: <not available>
Could not find map 3.9.1-7.gb6484b6-desktop/boot/System.map, please specify a correct file with -M.
There was an error generating the initrd (9)

i not sure if Kernel Modules: bad or good.

lspci -v:


0e:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff00
    Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46
    I/O ports at 4000 [size=256]
    Memory at f2004000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=4]
    Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=16]
    [virtual] Expansion ROM at f2020000 [disabled] [size=128]
    Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
    Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
    Capabilities: [70] Express Endpoint, MSI 01
    Capabilities: [ac] MSI-X: Enable- Count=4 Masked-
    Capabilities: [cc] Vital Product Data
    Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
    Capabilities: [140] Virtual Channel
    Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number ba-05-00-00-68-4c-e0-00
    Kernel driver in use: r8169

i know, i know, this because the command to tell driver is available on system not work, r8168 no on list of lsmod:

Module                  Size  Used by
fuse                   91304  3 
xt_tcpudp              12884  20 
xt_pkttype             12504  3 
xt_LOG                 17521  16 
xt_limit               12711  16 
ip6t_REJECT            12939  3 
nf_conntrack_ipv6      18938  3 
nf_defrag_ipv6         18261  1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
ip6table_raw           12683  1 
ipt_REJECT             12541  3 
iptable_raw            12678  1 
xt_CT                  12956  4 
iptable_filter         12810  1 
vboxpci                27290  0 
vboxnetadp             25670  0 
vboxnetflt             23479  0 
af_packet              39586  2 
vboxdrv               336753  3 vboxpci,vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
bnep                   19701  2 
bluetooth             386765  7 bnep
ip6table_mangle        12700  0 
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns    12665  0 
nf_conntrack_broadcast    12589  1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns
nf_conntrack_ipv4      15012  3 
nf_defrag_ipv4         12729  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
ip_tables              27239  2 iptable_raw,iptable_filter
xt_conntrack           12760  6 
nf_conntrack          101140  6 nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_CT,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_conntrack
ip6table_filter        12815  1 
ip6_tables             27025  3 ip6table_raw,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_filter
x_tables               34059  15 xt_tcpudp,xt_pkttype,xt_LOG,xt_limit,ip6t_REJECT,ip6table_raw,ipt_REJECT,iptable_raw,xt_CT,iptable_filter,ip6table_mangle,ip_tables,xt_conntrack,ip6table_filter,ip6_tables
arc4                   12615  2 
uvcvideo               85022  0 
videobuf2_core         40542  1 uvcvideo
videodev              134703  2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core
videobuf2_vmalloc      13216  1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops       13362  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
usb_storage            61501  6 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     45183  4 
acpi_cpufreq           19612  1 
mperf                  12667  1 acpi_cpufreq
coretemp               13435  0 
snd_hda_codec_realtek    50117  1 
snd_hda_intel          48117  5 
snd_hda_codec         204284  3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep              13602  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm               110153  3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq                69779  0 
snd_timer              29370  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         14497  1 snd_seq
snd                    87392  19 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
iTCO_wdt               13480  0 
iTCO_vendor_support    13718  1 iTCO_wdt
rtl8192se              98311  0 
rtlwifi               119506  1 rtl8192se
mac80211              678341  2 rtl8192se,rtlwifi
sdhci_pci              22794  0 
sdhci                  38672  1 sdhci_pci
cfg80211              579562  2 rtlwifi,mac80211
r8169                  67670  0 
jmb38x_ms              18663  0 
i2c_i801               22443  0 
mmc_core              124636  2 sdhci_pci,sdhci
soundcore              15047  1 snd
joydev                 17377  0 
snd_page_alloc         18710  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
pcspkr                 12718  0 
sr_mod                 22372  0 
cdrom                  46687  1 sr_mod
sg                     36524  0 
memstick               16796  1 jmb38x_ms
lpc_ich                16977  0 
mfd_core               13435  1 lpc_ich
microcode              35784  0 
toshiba_bluetooth      12852  0 
battery                18768  0 
ac                     13132  0 
toshiba_acpi           22894  0 
sparse_keymap          13890  1 toshiba_acpi
rfkill                 26522  5 bluetooth,cfg80211,toshiba_acpi
edd                    14503  0 
autofs4                42770  2 
nouveau              1047693  4 
ttm                    91915  1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper         52909  1 nouveau
drm                   306970  6 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit           13413  1 nouveau
mxm_wmi                13021  1 nouveau
video                  19400  1 nouveau
wmi                    19070  3 toshiba_acpi,nouveau,mxm_wmi
button                 13952  1 nouveau
processor              45174  3 acpi_cpufreq
thermal_sys            30733  2 video,processor
scsi_dh_rdac           17408  0 
scsi_dh_alua           17161  0 
scsi_dh_emc            17258  0 
scsi_dh_hp_sw          12894  0 
scsi_dh                14843  4 scsi_dh_rdac,scsi_dh_alua,scsi_dh_emc,scsi_dh_hp_sw

all commands run after switch to root by su.

also, i blacklist r8169 in this files
blacklist.conf
50-blacklist.conf
blacklist-network
all in /etc/modprobe.d/

now i still not restart, maybe i no have internet after that (or maybe yes).

Ah, i dont why or who, but now i have internet. so i install the “Linux Kernel Development” pattern you sugget,
and install again the driver (this comment Information above) - with success, but also errors (before install the devel packages is only errors, so maybe is installed, i not sure).

btw, i no found how to export list of packges togo for install, i asked previous comment.[/size][/size][/size][/size]

so… what I thought would happen, driver not installed, is fail.
and i not success to install (every time is fall). something wrong, and i don’t what…

meanwhile I returned to driver r8169 in kernel…

Argg!

what now?
please help.

Ok, i point you to the problem:
is make files not updated form realtek (files date 2012)…
(like i say before, it’s unable build new kernel i have install, all script/makefile is search for old kernels…)

So i install driver from this repo (with success, of course), But it’s requires me to install 3.7.10-1.4 (the newest is 3.9.0).
and install from repo is do all automatic things, little batter for Noobs :slight_smile:
way is success with no errors? in repo have patch to original makefiles (also this led me to the conclusion that files from realtek is old)

Maybe have way to apply this for all kernel installed (and rolling to new updates kernels)?
now is driver only on 3.7 kernel.

i no marker this topic as sloved because also before i success to install from repo,
the problem is why i unable to install direct from realtek, and without repos.

Please anyone’s tell to realtek is old and they require to update for new kernels!
i don’t how others success install from realtek website, but me unable to do this… somewhere have wrong, and I do not think it’s just me :confused:

So now, have way to apply… the same question here above.

Sorry if I expected more and pressed time, it’s hard to be without internet…
although the forum (This sub-forum) feels a little empty from activity.

and yes, sorry for my bad english, i’m hebrew man… :slight_smile:

OK, i solve the problem!,
All need is install of Patterns:

Development 

[X] Base Development
[X] Linux Kernel Development
[X] C/C++ Development

i found info HERE.

and not only the Linux Kernel Development pattern as said Knurpht.

Now i success to bulid and install with no errors, and is like this:

make clean

shimi_opensuse@linux-8cs9:/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00> make clean
make -C src/ clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C /lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/build SUBDIRS=/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src clean
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.7.10-1.4-obj/x86_64/default'
  CLEAN   /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/.tmp_versions
  CLEAN   /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/Module.symvers
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.7.10-1.4-obj/x86_64/default'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src'

make modules

shimi_opensuse@linux-8cs9:/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00> make modules
make -C src/ modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C /lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/build SUBDIRS=/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.7.10-1.4-obj/x86_64/default'
  CC [M]  /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_n.o
  CC [M]  /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168_asf.o
  CC [M]  /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/rtl_eeprom.o
  CC [M]  /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/rtltool.o
  LD [M]  /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168.o
  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST 1 modules
  CC      /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168.mod.o
  LD [M]  /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168.ko
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.7.10-1.4-obj/x86_64/default'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src'

make install

shimi_opensuse@linux-8cs9:/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00> sudo make install
root's password:
make -C src/ install
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src'
make -C /lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/build SUBDIRS=/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src INSTALL_MOD_DIR=kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek modules_install
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.7.10-1.4-obj/x86_64/default'
  INSTALL /home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src/r8168.ko
  DEPMOD  3.7.10-1.4-default
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.7.10-1.4-obj/x86_64/default'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00/src'

have errors only here, but is because i uninstalled r8169 a long time ago.
mv r8169.ko

shimi_opensuse@linux-8cs9:/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00> sudo mv /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko.old
mv: cannot stat ‘/lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko’: No such file or directory
shimi_opensuse@linux-8cs9:/home/shimi/download/r8168-8.035.00> sudo mv /lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko /lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko.old
mv: cannot stat ‘/lib/modules/3.7.10-1.4-default/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko’: No such file or directory

i don’t check if is possible also to build for higher ver’s kernel.
in Realtk site is listed 2.4.x / 2.6.x / 3.x. but not sure if up-to 3.9/soon-4.x.

How i mark thread as [solved]? no have edit in #1 main comment.
please mark.

Hi,

I’m having what I thought was the exact same problem. I’ve tried the steps here. When I type make clean (etc.) I get:

make[2] ** No rule to make target ‘try/r8168-8.035.00/src’. Stop,

Now, I don’t know if I’m just being a moron and running it in the wrong way… I’ve done this under su and have typed make clean from the directory that holds the autorun.sh file.

Really hope someone can help!!

Should have said I’m running 12.3.

Ok, discovered that my issue might have been slightly different to that in this post as I eventually managed to get the driver installed but there was still no wireless.

After a lot of googling and experimentation I discovered that this seems to be an issue affecting Lenovo Q190 machines in particular, but only because of the wireless chipset being used.

I found this thread about the same issue in ubuntu:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1096989

I tried to find how to install the 3.10 kernel for opensuse but failed, so in frustration installed Linux Mint and tried the 3.10 kernel. I almost fell off my chair when it actually worked.

So I’m now running linux mint with the new kernel. I understand 13.1 will use the 3.10 kernel and that there is a milestone preview available but I don’t know how stable this is so think I’ll have to stick with Mint for the time being…which I’m a bit disapointed about! Not that it’s a bad distro (in my limited experience) but I just prefer OpenSuse.

Hope this is of some use to a similarly frustrated person!

On 08/10/2013 03:06 AM, dommckenzie wrote:

> I tried to find how to install the 3.10 kernel for opensuse but failed,
> so in frustration installed Linux Mint and tried the 3.10 kernel. I
> almost fell off my chair when it actually worked.
>
> So I’m now running linux mint with the new kernel. I understand 13.1
> will use the 3.10 kernel and that there is a milestone preview available
> but I don’t know how stable this is so think I’ll have to stick with
> Mint for the time being…which I’m a bit disapointed about! Not that
> it’s a bad distro (in my limited experience) but I just prefer OpenSuse.

Note that openSUSE is spelled the way I did in this sentence.

I am using 13.1 M4 on one of my boxes and I am not having any problems; however
that is a pretty vanilla setup. You are probably wise not to try it just yet.

To get the very latest kernel for openSUSE, follow the instructions in
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_of_the_day.

BTW, driver rtl8188ee for the PCI version of the RTL8188E chips was added in
kernel 3.10. I am now working on the USB version and hope to get it into kernel
3.12.

Wow since the crash of the forums this thread and it conclusion were lost, I will try to recreate it because there must be some other people using this ethernet chip.

So you need to make your RTL8111/81688 PCI Express Ethernet chip work with openSUSE and kernel 3.10 and you have no internet connection while booted with 3.10. There are easier ways to do this if you have internet connection, just follow the link.

The below instructions are an example, you need to adjust them for your use.

  1. Download the source rpm from Akoellh openSUSE build site by clicking on the link in the upper right area. You will be presented with several options, click the “show” button across from the “Grab binary packages directly” and download the flavor that matches your system.
  2. Once you have the r8168-8.036.00-3.1.src.rpm file and you are booted into the 3.10 kernel you can build the kernel module.
  3. As your own user issue the command at a terminal “rpmbuild --rebuild r8168-8.036.00-3.1.src.rpm” and you should end up with a new directory ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/ ( may differ slightly depending on your arch) which contains the new kernel module for your Ethernet chip.
  4. Decide which build you need to install and As Root use “rpm -i r8168-kmp-desktop-8.036.00_k3.10.9_1.ga0841e3-3.1.x86_64.rpm”
  5. As Root “modprobe r8168” your internet should come up in a few minutes, mine did anyway.

Thanks to all that walked me through this.

Hi
The forums will sync up via nntp, no need to be concerned and re-post :wink:

hahaha, yea I kinda panic there I guess. We don’t all have nntp servers to come back and fill our data in.