I just want to install OpenSUSE for testing purposes. I figure Linux should only take a few GB for install. The system requirements say only 3gb, which sounds right to me. This is an old P4 but that shouldn’t make a difference.
I have a 40gb HD which I want to test some multiple boot scenarios. I partitioned it like so:
500mb FAT32 (primary) which will be an old OS like DOS
22gb NTFS (primary) which will be Win7
6gb unallocated
3gb FAT32 (logical) a data partition
4gb NTFS (logical) a data partition
I want to install OpenSUSE into the 6gb unallocated space. When I go reject the various shrinking of my existing partitions and try to tell SUSE to install in the unallocated space I get the message that I don’t have enough room? Shouldn’t 6gb be enough?
Requirements for OpenSUSE
Pentium* III 500 MHz or higher processor (Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or higher or any AMD64 or Intel* EM64T processor recommended)
512 MB physical RAM (1 GB recommended)
3 GB available disk space (more recommended)
800 x 600 display resolution (1024 x 768 or higher recommended)
I just need OpenSUSE to set up its partitions in the unallocated space. The suggested partitions are shrinking my various partitions by huge amounts and giving OpenSUSE like 20gb for its primary and a couple of 1.5gb partitions. When I reject those and tell it to install in the 6gb it says it doesn’t have enough room. I’m only trying to install the 700mb Live CD version (Gnome).
I’d really appreciate any help figuring out what I am missing on he install screens.
You need a swap partition at least equal to your RAM, pref 2 x RAM
So I suggest you make all the space after win7 to Extended and then make logical partitions as required
In short, no. 6GB is not enough. Even for a text only system (but I do not know what sort of testing you have in mind) I doubt.
I have a rather normal (not to much extra software) KDE installation and it uses already about 15 GB of installed software.
On 2012-12-10 07:36, sach2 wrote:
> I want to install OpenSUSE into the 6gb unallocated space. When I go
> reject the various shrinking of my existing partitions and try to tell
> SUSE to install in the unallocated space I get the message that I don’t
> have enough room? Shouldn’t 6gb be enough?
Is that free space inside the extended container partition?
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, post your partition table.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
On 2012-12-10 11:36, hcvv wrote:
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> In short, no. 6GB is not enough. Even for a text only system (but I do
> not know what sort of testing you have in mind) I doubt.
> I have a rather normal (not to much extra software) KDE installation
> and it uses already about 15 GB of installed software.
I installed yesterday in 8 GB, inside vmplayer. That inlcudes swap (1G)
and root, no separate home. XFCE desktop. very minimal, obviously.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
Sure? I have nearly the same configuration (KDE + some extras from Packman etc.), /home at a separate partition. The system partition is now at about 6 GB of disk space.
Am 10.12.2012 11:36, schrieb hcvv:
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> In short, no. 6GB is not enough. Even for a text only system (but I do
> not know what sort of testing you have in mind) I doubt.
This is from a LAMP server (used for Joomla at home), you see it uses
roughly 1.5 GB
I also often set up test machines in VBox with GUI and they fit on a 8GB
disk (and there is more than 2GB space left).
So 6GB should suffice for just setting up a system for playing around with.
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PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.5 | GTX 650 Ti
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.9.4 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 11.4 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | lamp server
The basic idea is to set up a HD with three OS and one Shared data partition. The first OS is Kolibri which like DOS requires FAT32. *I only have an old P4 with 1gb of RAM and a 40gb HD to work with but that should be enough. This is only for testing, I don’t have to actually run any of these OS but I think they should install. * I believe Win7 takes about 20gb even for a fresh install which is going to take the most of the 37gb available space and will be on the second partition. I then want OpenSUSE in the third partition and want it to use the unallocated space so that it can create the swap partition(s) as necessary. Then the Shared files partition which is FAT32 so Kolibri/DOS can use it. I also have a True Image backup of the XP that was originally on that drive of 4gb I want to save which leaves me with only 32gb for my purposes, this partition is logical at the end of the drive.
So, with 1gb of RAM that means 2gb of swap space. I’m trying to install the 700mb CD version of OpenSUSE but it is asking for 20gb for the main partition and when I say NO! and tell it to use my current partition scheme, it refuses to install in the 6gb of unallocated space.
I’m going to try increasing the unallocated to 8gb to see if that works. One question are swap partitions absolutely necessary? I think they are which is why I am allowing OpenSUSE to take over unallocated space to make the needed partitions but I just want to make sure there is no way to install Linux on a single partition even if it is less efficient. Thanks.
I also have a fresh installed 12.2 without any additions and it is indeed at 4.5 GB.
So it is possible.
But as said, it all deoends on what you want to test. The 15 GB sytem does have some extras like LAMP (including the web-pages/scripts, but exclusing the database. And I forgot that I lately added KDE 3.5.
With the numbers shown by others above, it must be possible to make an intelligent guess IMHO.
@sach2
I think you are just missing that you need to use the advanced Partitioner
What you currently have is a bit of a mess
I would resize sda2 to take up the 6.88GB of Unallocated space. Only trouble is I don’t know if that’s possible because I’d need the fdisk info to be sure.
You then need to use gparted to create a partition in that space ext4, and a swap, then use the advanced partitioner in the installer to set the mount point on the ext4 as /
Another point you must do first is uncheck the Propose Separate home here; https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/12.2_liveCD_Install/3_Suggest_Part.jpeg
Then go to Create Partition setup
Then Custom for experts
and so on
I need the 475mb partition for Kolibri/DOS then I need the 22gb partition for Win7. So that is two primary partitions. The true image is just holding an image file and I want to keep that but could convert to primary. So that would be three primary partitions with about 12gb unallocated in the middle of the disk. OpenSUSE won’t take that space and create the primary Linux partition and the swap partition. It should be able to do that. I think?
I am unticking the Propose Separate Home and then choosing Create Partition and then choose to use the IDE HD. When it asks what partitions to use I tell it the 12gb of unallocated space as I want to keep the other partitions I need. It then says not enough partitions or space to install OpenSUSE–Delete more partitions or use a larger HD. 12gb should be plenty for a small linux install, I think I am misunderstanding something.
What I did was redo my partitions in gparted.
I left the 450 FAT32, and 22gb NTFS and then created a 6gb ext4 primary. Then created an extended/logical and made a 2gb linux-swap and a 6g Shared FAT32.
Then installed SUSE and unticked Home and it accepted taking over the 6gb ext4 and swap partitions. imgur: the simple image sharer
I do have one more question, please.
Am I correct that the ext4 for SUSE has to be a primary partition. If I had put that into the extended partition then SUSE would not be able to boot?
On 12/10/2012 01:16 PM, caf4926 wrote:
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>> I think I am misunderstanding something.Me thinks too
>
> I’m tied up tonight, so wait see if someone else holds your hand
I will take a crack at this.
You could create a system without swap; however, the out-of-memory killer will
make processes just vanish whenever it runs out of memory. Using either KDE or
Gnome on a system with 1 GB RAM guarantees that this will happen. In fact, my
swap partition became unmountable without me noticing until the browser was
suddenly quitting even though I have 3 GB RAM.
From your picture, you need to create /dev/sda7 as a 1 GB swap partition. As
noted earlier 2x RAM is recommended, but not when disk space is so low. Next
create /dev/sda8 as the rest of the unallocated space, and do not use a separate
partition for /home.
All of this could be done with the openSUSE partitioner; however, as you have
gparted available, use it to create those 2 partitions. Be sure to set the
correct type for the swap partition. Now start the openSUSE installation. When
you see the “Suggested Partitioning” screen, uncheck the separate home partition
and select the “Edit Partition Setup” button. Check all the entries in the “F”
column and those in the Mount Point column. There should not be an entry in the
F column except for partitions 7 and 8. The essential mounts are “swap” for #7
and “/” for #8. If you want any of the others to be available from openSUSE,
then they should have a mount point specified, BUT NOT BE FORMATTED.
To change any one of the partitions, click on the hard drive entry in the left
panel, highlight the partition to change in the right panel, and click edit.
I got openSUSE 12.1 running on a Pentium III with 0.5 GHz, 0.5 GB RAM,
and a very old graphics hardware.
It runs reasonably well, or to say: it’s usable, as long as I run it under KDE 3 desktop
(or another simple desktop, i.e. not KDE 4, or Gnome).
On the other hand, in this system there are 3 hard disks,
one (12 GB, IDE) with an old windows on it,
and two (16 GB, SCSI, each) whith a version of openSUSE on it.
A reasonable minimum size for an openSUSE root partition is 3-4 GB,
if you want to use it for general purposes (i.e. not a thin server with limited tasks).
Compare with the free hard disk space you have,
and: it in fact is useful to have a separate partition for root (or ‘/’),
and another one for ‘/home’ (the one to store the users data).
On 2012-12-10 16:56, sach2 wrote:
> 'imgur: the simple image sharer
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> ’ (http://imgur.com/VaNG2)
Your problem here is that the 6.88GiB space is not inside sda3 (extended
partition). That’s why Linux refuses to install. No “not enough space”
but “not enough partitions”.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
