Question about notification of new Tumbleweed snapshots

I subscribe to the opensuse-factory mailing list ( to be notified of new Tumbleweed snapshots. Yesterday, zypper dup informed me of availability of a new snapshot (20180720) that hadn’t been announced by email. The new snapshot updated Network Manager, Vivaldi and a few other packages.

I was curious enough to check , and see that the ‘details’ page for this snapshot at lists no new packages.

This isn’t the most pressing question I’ve ever posted on this forum, but I’m curious: are some snapshots regarded as minor interim updates that aren’t worth announcing to the mailing list? Or does the mailing list occasionally fail to push out notices? It seems odd that Changes 20180720.txt is listed, but without content.

The new snapshot updated Network Manager …

There was no updated packages. They were just rebuilt and given new version numbers.

Is this some people’s hobby – constantly “updating” a perfectly useable machine? I wonder if they are hoping that something will break so that they get a distraction from doing useful work.

Dominique Leuenberger just cleared up the mystery, in answer to another user’s mailing list question:

The 'snapshot information' contains only information about changes of packages that are on the DVD; Snapshot 0720 actually happened to be really small and not touch anything that ended up on the DVD - so there was no diff compared to 0719. And we skip sending out empty mails.

Now I know. Thank you, Dominique!

An explanation is given here:

Please return your opensuse tumbleweed nerd badge on the way out. :stuck_out_tongue:

No but seriously, why run a bleeding edge rolling distro, if you’re not going to update to the bleeding edge. I keep a mirror image, so that if something breaks, I just reboot to live usb and restore and reboot in about 5 minutes. You can have the bleeding edge without worrying about breaking and getting stuck.

  1. {grumpy old fool response} There is a difference between checking for and performing reasonably frequent updates (weekly or daily) at a convenient time, and being labelled as a technophobe within minutes of the next release.

  2. {systems engineer response} Tumbleweeds are the only openSUSE versions available for 32-bit processors. I have a couple of such small low-power machines that monitor the status of critical servers and network infrastructure. They have been running a minimal Tumbleweed since the demise of 13.2 support and are only upgraded in response to relevant security alerts.