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#21

On 2014-05-13 05:36, alanbortu wrote:
>
> Okay so this is what fstab is set to:
>
> Code:
> --------------------
>
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HD103SJ_S246J9EB917733-part2 swap swap defaults 0 0
> UUID=8800f2e9-409b-4faf-944c-fc13e0c5571d / btrfs defaults,noatime,discard 0 0
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-KINGSTON_SH103S3120G_50026B722A0480DC-part1 /boot ext4,noatime,discard acl,user_xattr 1 2
> /dev/system/home /home ext4 defaults,noatime,discard 1 2
> /dev/sda1 /home/gum/Files btrfs defaults 1 2
> /dev/sda3 /home/gum/VM ext4 defaults 1 2
>
> --------------------

I’m unsure about that “/dev/system/home” - is that an encrypted
partition, or an LVM one?

One thing I would never do is having entries like “/dev/sda1”, because
they can change. Use instead references such as UUID, LABEL, or by-id.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#22

Hi
Perhaps you could expand on how or why they (as in /dev/sdX) might change?

#23

On 05/13/2014 12:36 AM, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Code:
> --------------------
>
> snapper list
>
> --------------------
>
> I wind my /etc/snapper/configs/root to only have 4 number, 4 hourly, 2
> daily and 1 monthly and yearly.
>
>

Quite a few… but how can this affect the disk sleep issue?


~ # snapper list
Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
Description       | Userdata
-------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
current           |
single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 20  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:22:01 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 21  | 20    | Mon Apr 28 20:43:21 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 22  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:44:28 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 23  | 22    | Mon Apr 28 20:52:42 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 61  |       | Tue Apr 29 16:14:25 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 62  | 61    | Tue Apr 29 16:21:04 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 83  |       | Wed Apr 30 09:36:55 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 84  | 83    | Wed Apr 30 09:41:37 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 101 |       | Wed Apr 30 23:03:03 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 102 | 101   | Wed Apr 30 23:03:31 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 104 |       | Thu May  1 00:15:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 117 |       | Thu May  1 18:26:39 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 119 | 117   | Thu May  1 18:32:34 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 126 |       | Thu May  1 21:06:27 2014 | root |          |
zypp(zypper)      |
pre    | 134 |       | Fri May  2 10:28:08 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 135 | 134   | Fri May  2 10:33:42 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 142 |       | Fri May  2 12:18:14 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 143 | 142   | Fri May  2 12:20:51 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 147 |       | Fri May  2 16:06:27 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 148 | 147   | Fri May  2 16:16:18 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 151 |       | Fri May  2 18:36:51 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 152 | 151   | Fri May  2 18:36:59 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 159 |       | Sat May  3 00:45:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 164 |       | Sat May  3 12:32:30 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 165 | 164   | Sat May  3 12:38:47 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 167 |       | Sat May  3 13:31:53 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 168 | 167   | Sat May  3 13:32:12 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 185 |       | Sun May  4 00:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 205 |       | Sun May  4 16:41:09 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 206 | 205   | Sun May  4 16:42:46 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 209 |       | Sun May  4 18:42:42 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 210 | 209   | Sun May  4 18:45:25 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 216 |       | Mon May  5 00:30:02 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 217 |       | Mon May  5 01:02:39 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 218 | 217   | Mon May  5 01:03:06 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 224 |       | Mon May  5 02:29:44 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 226 | 224   | Mon May  5 02:30:07 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 230 |       | Mon May  5 13:43:23 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 231 | 230   | Mon May  5 13:43:50 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 232 |       | Mon May  5 13:46:03 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 233 | 232   | Mon May  5 13:47:44 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 235 |       | Mon May  5 14:24:51 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 236 | 235   | Mon May  5 14:24:57 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 237 |       | Mon May  5 14:25:02 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 238 | 237   | Mon May  5 14:25:16 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 247 |       | Mon May  5 22:54:59 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(packagekitd) |
post   | 248 | 247   | Mon May  5 22:55:12 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 250 |       | Tue May  6 00:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 256 |       | Tue May  6 23:51:05 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 257 | 256   | Wed May  7 00:07:21 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 258 |       | Wed May  7 00:45:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 265 |       | Wed May  7 21:42:07 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 267 | 265   | Wed May  7 21:52:08 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 269 |       | Wed May  7 23:42:25 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 270 | 269   | Wed May  7 23:44:21 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 272 |       | Wed May  7 23:46:49 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 273 | 272   | Wed May  7 23:48:39 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 274 |       | Thu May  8 08:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 275 |       | Thu May  8 08:17:34 2014 | root |          |
zypp(zypper)      |
pre    | 276 |       | Thu May  8 08:30:29 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 277 | 276   | Thu May  8 08:32:36 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 279 |       | Thu May  8 19:16:45 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 280 | 279   | Thu May  8 19:16:50 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 281 |       | Thu May  8 19:17:25 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 282 | 281   | Thu May  8 19:19:42 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 286 |       | Thu May  8 22:01:45 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 287 | 286   | Thu May  8 22:01:59 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 288 |       | Thu May  8 22:10:35 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 289 | 288   | Thu May  8 22:19:37 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 290 |       | Thu May  8 22:21:37 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 291 | 290   | Thu May  8 22:21:48 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 292 |       | Thu May  8 22:23:59 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 293 | 292   | Thu May  8 22:24:03 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 294 |       | Thu May  8 22:24:55 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 295 | 294   | Thu May  8 22:26:41 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 298 |       | Fri May  9 08:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 303 |       | Fri May  9 20:15:21 2014 | root |          |
zypp(zypper)      |
single | 307 |       | Sat May 10 00:15:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 314 |       | Sat May 10 16:14:39 2014 | root |          |
zypp(zypper)      |
pre    | 322 |       | Sat May 10 22:18:59 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 323 | 322   | Sat May 10 22:21:08 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 324 |       | Sat May 10 23:13:16 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 325 | 324   | Sat May 10 23:13:17 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 327 |       | Sun May 11 00:15:02 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 333 |       | Sun May 11 12:45:13 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 334 | 333   | Sun May 11 12:45:45 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 335 |       | Sun May 11 12:47:41 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 336 | 335   | Sun May 11 12:48:06 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 341 |       | Sun May 11 16:53:15 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 342 | 341   | Sun May 11 16:58:27 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 344 |       | Sun May 11 17:28:34 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 345 | 344   | Sun May 11 17:29:04 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 347 |       | Sun May 11 18:30:12 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 348 | 347   | Sun May 11 18:34:16 2014 | root |          |
|
pre    | 349 |       | Sun May 11 18:54:57 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 350 | 349   | Sun May 11 18:55:47 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 356 |       | Mon May 12 00:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 359 |       | Mon May 12 11:25:12 2014 | root |          |
zypp(zypper)      |
single | 360 |       | Mon May 12 11:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
single | 361 |       | Mon May 12 12:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 362 |       | Mon May 12 13:11:55 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(packagekitd) |
post   | 363 | 362   | Mon May 12 13:13:39 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 364 |       | Mon May 12 13:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
single | 365 |       | Mon May 12 14:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 366 |       | Mon May 12 14:42:30 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 367 | 366   | Mon May 12 14:42:41 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 368 |       | Mon May 12 15:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
single | 369 |       | Mon May 12 16:30:02 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 370 |       | Mon May 12 17:20:13 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 371 | 370   | Mon May 12 17:20:26 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 372 |       | Mon May 12 17:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
single | 373 |       | Mon May 12 18:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 374 |       | Mon May 12 19:28:17 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 375 | 374   | Mon May 12 19:28:42 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 376 |       | Mon May 12 19:28:50 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 377 | 376   | Mon May 12 19:29:04 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 378 |       | Mon May 12 19:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 379 |       | Mon May 12 19:37:45 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 380 | 379   | Mon May 12 19:39:08 2014 | root | number   |
|
pre    | 381 |       | Mon May 12 19:41:01 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 382 | 381   | Mon May 12 19:41:04 2014 | root | number   |
|
single | 383 |       | Mon May 12 20:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
single | 384 |       | Mon May 12 21:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
single | 385 |       | Mon May 12 22:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 386 |       | Mon May 12 22:55:09 2014 | root | number   |
zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 387 | 386   | Mon May 12 23:03:20 2014 | root |          |
|
single | 388 |       | Mon May 12 23:30:02 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |
pre    | 389 |       | Mon May 12 23:45:51 2014 | root |          |
zypp(zypper)      |
single | 390 |       | Tue May 13 08:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
timeline          |

On 05/13/2014 07:04 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I’m unsure about that “/dev/system/home” - is that an encrypted
> partition, or an LVM one?
>
> One thing I would never do is having entries like “/dev/sda1”, because
> they can change. Use instead references such as UUID, LABEL, or by-id.
>

Yeah its an lvm. And yeah… I got lazy…

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#24

Hi
It shouldn’t, but the 13.1 defaults are known to be aggressive in the snapshots kept and can fill up the disk…

#25

On 2014-05-13 14:20, alanbortu wrote:

>


> ~ # snapper list
> Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
> Description       | Userdata
> -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
> single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
> current           |
> single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
> timeline          |
> pre    | 20  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:22:01 2014 | root | number   |
> zypp(zypper)      |

>

Unfortunatel, your text got wrapped and is difficult to read. Are you
using nntp with thunderbird?

Unfortunately, Th wraps long lines by default, and you can not disable
that when using plain text, only with html. Very unfortunate “feature”
when pasting code blocks.

What I do is:

select the text, ctrl-x, ctrl-shift-O (paste as quotation).


>> ~ # snapper list
>> Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  | Description       | Userdata
>> -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
>> single | 0   |       |                          | root |          | current           |
>> single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |

This disables text wrap, at the cost of adding a “>” at the left. You
can remove it, but then the text is wraped again on send.

Let me try, then we’ll see how it comes out on both interfaces.


~ # snapper list
Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
Description       | Userdata
-------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
current           |
single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |

The other method is to disable text wrap or do it at column 200 - but
then your email recipients complain bitterly. :-/

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#26

On 2014-05-13 14:16, malcolmlewis wrote:

> Hi
> Perhaps you could expand on how or why they (as in /dev/sdX) might
> change?

For instance, in my desktop machine. I boot, and my root is, say, on
sda. Then I plug in an external disk via eSATA interface, and it appears
on, say, sdg.

If I hibernate or reboot, with that external disk connected, my machine
boots correctly, but now the external disk is /dev/sda and my root is on
/dev/sdb.

This does not happen for everybody. In my case it means that the eSATA
cables have higher precedence in the BIOS. But it can happen, and it is
the reason the kernel devs implemented the /dev/disk-by/ symlinks,
because they are guaranteed stable across boots.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#27

On 2014-05-13 14:20, alanbortu wrote:
> Quite a few… but how can this affect the disk sleep issue?

Maybe it keeps the disk busy for long…

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#28

Hi
Ahh, ok makes sense :slight_smile: I’m fortunate to have not struck that.

#29

On 2014-05-13 15:16, malcolmlewis wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2642965 Wrote:

> Hi
> Ahh, ok makes sense :slight_smile: I’m fortunate to have not struck that.

I know :slight_smile:
Not everybody is aware of this thing.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#30

I am at school at the moment. When I get home I will post the output again properly.

#31

On 2014-05-13 14:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Unfortunatel, your text got wrapped and is difficult to read. Are you
> using nntp with thunderbird?

I was told, just minutes ago, to install the addon named “Toggle Word Wrap 1.9”. Then ctrl-shift-W disables wrap for the current message - I’m testing it now :wink:

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#32

On 05/13/2014 04:04 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2014-05-13 14:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Unfortunatel, your text got wrapped and is difficult to read. Are you
>> using nntp with thunderbird?
>
> I was told, just minutes ago, to install the addon named “Toggle Word Wrap 1.9”. Then ctrl-shift-W disables wrap for the current message - I’m testing it now :wink:
>

Neat


~ # snapper list
Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  | Description       | Userdata
-------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
single | 0   |       |                          | root |          | current           |
single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 20  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:22:01 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 21  | 20    | Mon Apr 28 20:43:21 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 22  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:44:28 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 23  | 22    | Mon Apr 28 20:52:42 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 61  |       | Tue Apr 29 16:14:25 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 62  | 61    | Tue Apr 29 16:21:04 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 83  |       | Wed Apr 30 09:36:55 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 84  | 83    | Wed Apr 30 09:41:37 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 101 |       | Wed Apr 30 23:03:03 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 102 | 101   | Wed Apr 30 23:03:31 2014 | root |          |                   |
single | 104 |       | Thu May  1 00:15:01 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 117 |       | Thu May  1 18:26:39 2014 | root | number   | zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 119 | 117   | Thu May  1 18:32:34 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 126 |       | Thu May  1 21:06:27 2014 | root |          | zypp(zypper)      |
pre    | 134 |       | Fri May  2 10:28:08 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 135 | 134   | Fri May  2 10:33:42 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 142 |       | Fri May  2 12:18:14 2014 | root | number   | zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 143 | 142   | Fri May  2 12:20:51 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 147 |       | Fri May  2 16:06:27 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 148 | 147   | Fri May  2 16:16:18 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 151 |       | Fri May  2 18:36:51 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 152 | 151   | Fri May  2 18:36:59 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 164 |       | Sat May  3 12:32:30 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 165 | 164   | Sat May  3 12:38:47 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 167 |       | Sat May  3 13:31:53 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 168 | 167   | Sat May  3 13:32:12 2014 | root |          |                   |
single | 185 |       | Sun May  4 00:30:01 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 205 |       | Sun May  4 16:41:09 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 206 | 205   | Sun May  4 16:42:46 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 209 |       | Sun May  4 18:42:42 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 210 | 209   | Sun May  4 18:45:25 2014 | root |          |                   |
single | 216 |       | Mon May  5 00:30:02 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 217 |       | Mon May  5 01:02:39 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 218 | 217   | Mon May  5 01:03:06 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 224 |       | Mon May  5 02:29:44 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 226 | 224   | Mon May  5 02:30:07 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 230 |       | Mon May  5 13:43:23 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 231 | 230   | Mon May  5 13:43:50 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 232 |       | Mon May  5 13:46:03 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 233 | 232   | Mon May  5 13:47:44 2014 | root | number   |                   |
pre    | 235 |       | Mon May  5 14:24:51 2014 | root | number   | zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 236 | 235   | Mon May  5 14:24:57 2014 | root | number   |                   |
pre    | 237 |       | Mon May  5 14:25:02 2014 | root | number   | zypp(y2base)      |
post   | 238 | 237   | Mon May  5 14:25:16 2014 | root | number   |                   |
pre    | 247 |       | Mon May  5 22:54:59 2014 | root | number   | zypp(packagekitd) |
post   | 248 | 247   | Mon May  5 22:55:12 2014 | root | number   |                   |
single | 250 |       | Tue May  6 00:00:01 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 256 |       | Tue May  6 23:51:05 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 257 | 256   | Wed May  7 00:07:21 2014 | root |          |                   |
single | 258 |       | Wed May  7 00:45:01 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 265 |       | Wed May  7 21:42:07 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 267 | 265   | Wed May  7 21:52:08 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 269 |       | Wed May  7 23:42:25 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 270 | 269   | Wed May  7 23:44:21 2014 | root | number   |                   |
pre    | 272 |       | Wed May  7 23:46:49 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 273 | 272   | Wed May  7 23:48:39 2014 | root | number   |                   |
single | 274 |       | Thu May  8 08:00:01 2014 | root | timeline | timeline          |
pre    | 275 |       | Thu May  8 08:17:34 2014 | root |          | zypp(zypper)      |
pre    | 276 |       | Thu May  8 08:30:29 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
post   | 277 | 276   | Thu May  8 08:32:36 2014 | root |          |                   |
pre    | 279 |       | Thu May  8 19:16:45 2014 | root | number   | zypp(zypper)      |
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#33

I just tried to send an email to myself using Thunderbird and my computer just froze up. I saw Thunderbird along with a couple other applications were on disk sleep. I was running an update at the same time too. Maybe btrfs is causing some issues? I guess I can try disabling snapshots or something and see if it makes it better.

And I really am starting to think its btrfs
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Snapper_FAQ#My_system_has_high_I.2FO_load_after_running_YaST_or_zypper._What_can_I_do.3F

#34

On 2014-05-14 03:16, alanbortu wrote:
>
> I just tried to send an email to myself using Thunderbird and my
> computer just froze up. I saw Thunderbird along with a couple other
> applications were on disk sleep. I was running an update at the same
> time too. Maybe btrfs is causing some issues? I guess I can try
> disabling snapshots or something and see if it makes it better.

Try that…

I also see you have some relatively old snapshots (month and half?), you
could try to consolidate them, or whatever the process is called.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

#35

I will look into consolidating (although the snapshots are only from late April, max 2 weeks ago)

Also what is btrfs-transacti? Because I was looking at iotop…

0.00 B/s 1309.82 K/s  0.00 % 98.30 % [btrfs-transacti]
#36

We should also be looking at the report from:

# btrfs filesystem df /

Pay particular attention to the “Metadata, DUP: total=x.xGiB, used=xxx.xxMiB”. Problems will occur if you use up all the allocated Metadata space, and there needs to be a margin.

I may have missed, but what is the size of the root partition, for example? You would have to be really constrained (e.g. well under 20GB) to be worrying about those snapshot levels.

#37

I have given up on btrfs for the moment and reinstalled with ext4. While I dont do super important work on this computer, its quite annoying when the computer randomly freezes when I am trying to send email or browse the internet. If that did not fix it then its obviously not btrfs and we will have to find out what :wink:

#38

Firefox 29.0.1 is supposed to fix the problem with Firefox.

You could try disabling hardware acceleration. That seemed to fix it for me when I was testing Firefox 29.0betas.

Have since re-enabled it for Firefox 30.0 beta and haven’t had any problems.

Actually, I tested Firefox 29.0 release with hardware acceleration re-enabled for a couple days and never had the problem.

Are all those firefox processes from one window, or more?

Do you use the Quit button or ‘x’ in the titlebar?

#39

Already tried disabling HWA (did nothing) but the problem is a general system issue not just firefox. And I always close it using the button at the top right.

#40

Start it from command line and see if it throws errors when you close it.