Problems with window tabs..

Thats an interesting solution. What does it entail? With my canyon deep and wide ignorance of linux I imagine I might have to reinstall matlab for that use too !! I don’t think it’ll work. I had to log in as not root, to install matlab, but with the administrator/main account, which can access root, or something like that. Matlab was registered with my current account on OpenSUSE. I can’t use it when I log on as another, I think. Maybe multiple desktop-engines are the way to test this out.

I’m reasonably sure that compiz is creating the trouble for matlab. as palladium says, compiz does have a tendency to make other programs not work properly. This isn’t the first time compiz messed up matlab for me I think. But the other time was a different laptop using Ubuntu. Also, ALL problems with matlab were gone when I disabled desktop effects. I worked for 1½ hours with no problems. The windows tabs dissappers after a few minutes. Sometimes even less than a minute, when I’m using desktop effects !!

Daqar

Also, ALL problems with matlab were gone when I disabled desktop effects. I worked for 1½ hours with no problems. The windows tabs dissappers after a few minutes. Sometimes even less than a minute, when I’m using desktop effects !!

Okay, this is more than obvious. In this case I suppose switching Compiz off while working with matlab is the easiest solution, though I still think an update (if one is available) might offer bugfixes (it’s worth a try). You could use YaSTs software management to find out where this package came from.

If you install KDE all your programs will still be available in both Desktops. Depending on how you installed you may have to make a shortcut or/and add to the menu.

To install KDE go to Yast software management and select patterns and hen KDE base system and KDE desktop environment.

Install. When you log in select KDE on the bottom left.

Daqar wrote:
> gogalthorp;2135396 Wrote:
>> Here is an idea. Linux is multiuser create a new user that does not have
>> compiz. switch to that user when you need to run matlab.
>
> Thats an interesting solution. What does it entail? With my canyon deep
> and wide ignorance of linux I imagine I might have to reinstall matlab
> for that use too !!

no…you don’t understand yet…let me try to give a short history lesson:

back when Bill Gates was in grade school there were already computers
in use…they were huge, room sized, and very expensive machines which
were shared by all the different departments of (say) an insurance
company home office, or university campus, or…

one computer, LOTS of individual users in various departments would
sit down at a “terminal” and do their (say) payroll or inventory or
delivery sheets or the calculation for their thesis paper or or

the various offices had memory disks that were stored on a shelf and
‘mounted’ on their motor driver only when needed…if no one was
doing ‘payroll’ then that disk wouldn’t be loaded until a user asked
the system adminstrator to ‘mount’ it on to an empty motor drive…

now, the computer code which ran the system as well as the application
which (say) did the payroll and printed the pay checks were all
‘owned’ by the system administrator…NONE of that was on the disk
(we called them a ‘disk pack’) used by the accounting office…that
is, NO user in accounting could change, modify, replace etc the guts
the system…they could only do THEIR business…

the administrator and his/her staff (it took SEVERAL) fed and cared
for the machine and the tools/applications…while the users just
manipulated their data (Sue worked 40 hours, Jim 42.5, etc etc etc)…

sorry for too long: the point is this…when you install matlab as
root (root = administrator = super user) then it is available to ALL
users (unless root decides that only certain users can use it–like in
the old days the folks in the warehouse could NOT go into the files of
the accounting department and start having their checks be printed for
(say) a million dollars a month…make sense?)

now, if some idiot in the warehouse made a huge mess of the warehouse
files it would NOT cripple either the entire system or individual
users in areas like accounting…but, imagine the chaos if every user
had the power to change the system…or change the routines in the
applications…

Linux is born out of that kind of multi-user system…keeping the user
and administrator powers/access/control separate and distinct is one
good way to minimize chaos…and have a stable system…

install matlab as root and if after a while Daqar’s account won’t run,
then add a new user (using YaST) and see if NewUser can run matlab okay…

if the new user CAN run it ok it means that the basic system and
matlab are intact, but something about the Daqar’s user account is
messed up (probably, in this case something in /home/Daqar/.matlab or
…compiz, or .kde or or or or

because ~/.[whatever] is the place where all of Daqar’s settings are
stored…maybe he pushed a button he should not have…and NewUser
has not, yet…

helpful…or a waste of space?


palladium

I understand that lecture. I’m jut positive I read something like that in a message box when or after installing matlab, that only one use account could use it. But it was an interesting read ! :slight_smile:

So I’ll try updating compiz and install KDE and see which works. If that doesn’t help I might have to disable compiz in gnome and run matlab there and keep all the nizzle effects in KDE.

Daqar

Daqar wrote:
> I understand that lecture. I’m jut positive I read something like that
> in a message box when or after installing matlab, that only one use
> account could use it. But it was an interesting read ! :slight_smile:

OH, of course that is purchased proprietary software…(being a
non-math type i forgot)

hmmm…i don’t know how that is handled (to keep folks from “sharing”
with their dorm mates)

let me ask, each time you launch matlab does it ask for a unique user
login and password? if so, and if you installed it as root, i’d guess
it wouldn’t care which Linux user you are (Daqar or NewUser) as long
as you respond to matlab login correctly…

but, a lot of those anti-share devices are rather intrusive and pretty
good at making sure that you are who you say you are…


palladium

Hmm…nothing comes to mind. No, I definately don’t have to supply matlab with passwords, key-codes or anything when starting it. I think I just have to be logged in as the person the program is registered to. Thats all. So maybe installing more desktop-engines could help, as I’d still log on with the right rights, but a different desktop-environment.

Daqar

Ok I think I installed KDE4 now…but it won’t let me choose desktop environment…after rebooting it just started up with gnome without ever asking which desktop engine I want to use.

According to yast I have installed 17 out of 35 KDE4-packages under KDE4 Desktop Environment.

I have installed 52 out of 58 KDE4-packages under KDE4 Base System.

I don’t know if I should have all…I don’t think so, since one the installs I’m missing under KDE4 Desktop Environment is ‘kde4-kalarm’.

Daqar

OK I looked through what programs I have installed in the main menu. I think I installed kde4 wrong. Right now I seem to be running some wierd mix of both gnome and KDE4. This leads me to believe that I’ve done something wrong during the installation of KDE4. What should I do now?

Daqar

interesting information…but i don’t see a question therein…and,
none of it has anything to do with a window tab problem as far as i
can tell…so, i guess it is just info…huh?

otoh, if you have a NEW question then it would be wise to ask it in a
NEW thread with a relevant subject line, so the folks that might know
something about your NEW problem could see it


palladium

I suppose you have set an automatic login, but desktop environments are choosed in the login-manager dialogue (remember when installing a new desktop environment it gets installed parallel to the existing ones), and to me it looks like you simply still run GNOME with some KDE4-apps. Try to log out by just ending the session (instead of rebooting / shutting down), that should send you to your login-manager where you can choose KDE4.