Heya,
I’m having trouble switching between the two desktop environments. It took me a while to realize there is a bar at the buttom of the screen where I can switch between ‘sessions’. Twice I thought I started up with gnome when it turned out I started up with kde4.
I’m using OpenSUSE 11.1 64bit.
Daqar
You should switch desktop environments at the login screen.
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Thanks for the help, it turns out it was just me not doing it right. I’m glad to see you also have a lot of options when starting OpenSUSE. I thought something terrible was wrong when saw all the options I have…
Daqar
Daqar wrote:
> I thought something terrible was wrong when saw all the options I
> have…
yep…that is one of the things you have to get used to here (after
having almost ZERO options with other operating systems)
like, you might ask a question on how to do something and get three,
five (or more) answers…and all of them be different, and correct!
try that on non-open systems…
–
palladium
OK, now I’m sure. There are indeed some problems with gnome/KDE. Mostly with KDE. I logged on today and I checked what desktop environment I was going to use. It said KDE4 and gnome got started.
I also have wierd grafic artifacts when I change desktop in KDE? Thick black lines gets drawn around the menus and buttons. I’ve been trying to take screenshots of these, but everytime I press ‘Print Screen’ the lines dissappear.
Thirdly ALL the log out/shut down/restart buttons in KDE doesn’t work as advertised. They all return me to the log on screen. Except shut down. That one just makes the computer unresponsive for 3 minutes and THEN I get returned to the log-on screen.
…I must have messed up something during the install of KDE4 !! 
Daqar
Get 11.2 you’ll not regret it
Just to make sure I do that correctly…
How do I do that? I just checked for updates using yast2, that one got me updates for things I already have, like samba security I remember was one of them. Is there a graphic tool to help me with this?
Daqar
You should back up important data.
And get yourself a 11.2 DVD and do a fresh install
or you could try the in place update
Remove all your repos and add back in
oss, non-oss, update - for 11.2
then in a su - terminal do
zypper ref
zypper in zypper libzypp
zypper dup
reboot
Basically it’s just replacing the 11.1-repositories with those for 11.2 (make sure no “old” repository is left!) and then do
zypper -v dup
[The ‘-v’-option just adds some verbosity to the output.]
Take a close look on what zypper is up to do before proceeding, if you stumble over conflicts, post the output here.
After the packages have been installed, a reboot will start the upgraded SuSE.
I also have wierd grafic artifacts when I change desktop in KDE? Thick black lines gets drawn around the menus and buttons. I’ve been trying to take screenshots of these, but everytime I press ‘Print Screen’ the lines dissappear.
That sounds like some faulty effects-configuration; take a look in the respective “shadow”-module in KDEs systemsettings.¹
¹I recommend using the →BeShadowed-plugin instead of the default shadow-effect of KDE4, which is provided by the respective ‘KDE4:Community’-repositories (package ‘kwin-fx-beshadowed’).
OK, guys I’m a total n00b when it comes to linux. I’ve been using OpenSuse regularly for about 3 months now !! So I need some guidance here…
Whats the easiest way of doing this upgrade? The one that I’m least likely to screw up. Keep in mind my laptop, which this is happening on, is dual booting. It also has Winblows 7. The windows partition and system needs to be undamaged by this.
Its normal Windows-guy goes linux/Opensuse, I see terminal commands and I **** bricks !! :P:Protfl!
But I might as well get used to it… 
Daqar
Whats the easiest way of doing this upgrade?
Well… caf and I have given you hints on how to perform the update. Again (and even shorter):
• Replace the 11.1-repositories with their 11.2 equivalents
• ‘zypper -v dup’ (the actual upgrade)
• reboot
…and that’s about it.
See my earlier post, which includes the install of the newer zypper packages before the upgrade takes place proper.
Personally I would do all this form outside the desktop, actually a level 3 boot
Then bec
ome su -
The level 3 boot principle is shown here, except your doing it on an installed system, this image is a DVD boot menu
Here is info on su
I’m running into a little bit of trouble…I’m following this guide:
To upgrade to 11.2, I found it as I was looking for ways to remove all 11.1 repos and adding all 11.2 repos…
The output from ‘zypper repos --uri’ is:
| Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | URI
–±--------------------------±--------------------------±--------±--------±-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 | devel:languages:R:patched | devel:languages:R:patched | Yes | Yes | Index of /repositories/devel:/languages:/R:/patched/openSUSE_11.1
2 | google-chrome | google-chrome | Yes | Yes | http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/x86_64
3 | openSUSE:11.1:NonFree | openSUSE:11.1:NonFree | Yes | Yes | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss
4 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss
5 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss
6 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes | Index of /update/11.1
7 | repo_1 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1
jacob@linux-hfvh:~>
So that looks fine, then I go to step 3 ‘zypper refresh’ (I have to use ‘su’ first):
System management is locked by the application with pid 6962 (/usr/sbin/packagekitd).
Close this application before trying again.
I check the system monitor, that one does not list a process with that ID. Dang…I suppose at this point that backing up my data and then reinstalling from scratch is the best option.
Daqar
First you need to config the updater applet NOT to start at boot via right click. Then reboot.
next go to Yast - Software repositories and delete all the repos
And add in the 11.2 for
Oss, Non-oss, Update
Repository Management - openSUSE Forums
Now follow my earlier instructions
I really feel like an idiot now ! :shame:
How do I configure that update applet? I tried using yast2 → software, and then I tried both ‘Online update configuration’ and ‘Online Update’, those being the only ones with the wornd ‘update’ in them…
Daqar
Have you deleted the repos yet?
If you can’t manage the user interface I can give you a list of commands. But I need to know if your repo list is as it quoted earlier?
I haven’t made any changes to the repos yet. I don’t know how important it is to configure the update applet, so I didn’t want to proceed beyond that step. I suppose the commands would be good, but I’m also thinking I might be using the wrong graphics tool.
Daqar
You do NOT need to use Online Update Config!
Here is where you go to manage the repos
http://thumbnails28.imagebam.com/7346/9a2b0173450696.gif](http://www.imagebam.com/image/9a2b0173450696)
Right click the update icon in your tray. select Configure applet. Uncleck “Automatic start updater on login”
Right click the update icon in your tray. Select quit
To fix you repos open Yast “Select Software repositories”.
Verbosity: 1
Initializing Target
Checking whether to refresh metadata for OpenSUSE 11.2 non-oss
Checking whether to refresh metadata for OpenSUSE 11.2 update
Checking whether to refresh metadata for OpenSuse 11.2 OSS
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Computing distribution upgrade...
Force resolution: No
Computing upgrade...
2 Problems:
Problem: sesam_srv-3.0.1-171.1.1.i586 requires libsm.so, but this requirement cannot be provided
Problem: libgwenhywfar38-2.6.2-3.5.i586 requires gwenhywfar38 >= 2.6.2, but this requirement cannot be provided
Problem: sesam_srv-3.0.1-171.1.1.i586 requires libsm.so, but this requirement cannot be provided
deleted providers: sesam_srv-3.0.1-169.5.x86_64@System]
Solution 1: keep sesam_srv-3.0.1-169.5.x86_64
Solution 2: Ignore some dependencies of sesam_srv
Choose from above solutions by number or skip, retry or cancel [1/2/s/r/C]:
Is that an actualy problem?
Daqar