I’ve now done a couple of OpenSUSE installs, previously having some difficulties figuring out the differences between how Gecko installs and how stable 42.2 installs . . . but, I like OpenSUSE enough on my '12 Mac Pro that I decided to try to run a Net install of what I’m assuming is “Tumbleweed” aka 42.3 “Alpha”?
So, I wiped one of the 10 partitions on my HD of another linux brand OS, and I planned on using that partition for the “/” filesystem and I would use the same “/home” partition that I have the other Open SUSE files installed to . . . but, ran into some “problems” that I couldn’t figure out how to get around. Since I’m on a 1.5 MB/second DSL line it took perhaps a half an hour to “download” the 5 files before the Yast Net installer window formally opened" . . . and, as previously the “proposed” install seemed to pick every other partition, except the empty one I wanted to use.
When I selected “edit proposed settings” button for the sda6 that I wanted to use . . . the “mount as” button didn’t offer any plain “/” as an option; it just showed /var, /opt, /srv /tmp, /usr/ . . . & one other one I can’t read from my notes. I’ve done a substantial number of linux, ubuntu, and linux mint installs using GParted of various iterations, and usually I can figure out how to get a partition cut up or flagged, but the Yast installer seems “complicated” . . . . I started to click on the “Create new schedule”??? button, but I think it gave me some “warning” so I backed out of it, rather than doing something that I would regret. Is that what I’d want to use to get the empty “sda6” partition to list as where I want to install Tumbleweed?
Each of the various choices I made all seemed to pick the LEAP 42.2 stable partition as the intended install target, and I couldn’t figure out how to flag the empty partition . . . . I have two large partitions with OSX versions, a LEAP stable, a Gecko, a /home for all of the linux OSs, and a Swap. The TW installer kept choosing the LEAP stable partition as “/;” I’d rather pick the empty partition up front rather than installing into LEAP, and then trying to install stable again in the place where I want TW to go???
Thanks for the reply . . . from this page openSUSE Leap - Get openSUSE I downloaded the “latest release” rather than “stable” . . . the little header says “download 42.3 alpha” which I assumed was “Tumbleweed” . . . but, judging from your post it must not be Tumbleweed . . . ???
The actual file name says “Leap-42.2-NET” . . . . Since I already have a couple Leap’s . . . I guess I’d want to shop around to try to find “TW”??? But, since download times are slow here, I’ll probably want to do the NET install . . . but, I don’t think that will actually change my question?? How to flag an empty partition for “/” when there are other “Leap” partitions around that the installer seems to choose . . . over the empty ones???
On Wed, 31 May 2017 00:26:02 +0000, non space wrote:
> hendersj;2824760 Wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 May 2017 21:06:02 +0000, non space wrote:
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>> > “Tumbleweed” aka 42.3 “Alpha”?
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>> Tumbleweed is a rolling release - Leap 42.3 is a separate release.
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>> You’ll want to clarify for sure what you’re installing.
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>> Jim
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> Thanks for the reply . . . from this page
> http://software.opensuse.org/developer/en?release=developer I
> downloaded the “latest release” rather than “stable” . . . the little
> header says “download 42.3 alpha” which I assumed was “Tumbleweed” . .
> . but, judging from your post it must not be Tumbleweed . . . ???
Nope, that’s Leap. Tumbleweed is a different distribution - a rolling
distro.
> The actual file name says “Leap-42.2-NET” . . . . Since I already have
> a couple Leap’s . . . I guess I’d want to shop around to try to find
> “TW”??? But, since download times are slow here, I’ll probably want to
> do the NET install . . . but, I don’t think that will actually change my
> question?? How to flag an empty partition for “/” when there are other
> “Leap” partitions around that the installer seems to choose . . . over
> the empty ones???
It doesn’t change the question, but might change the answer a bit since
it’s an alpha release. If it’s a behaviour in an alpha release, you
might be asked to submit a bug against it if the behaviour is not
intended.
Thanks for the links and the clarification on the Leap v TW . . . . I’ll check into it and see how the install goes . . . and I’ll post back with the developments.
On Wed, 31 May 2017 02:56:01 +0000, non space wrote:
> @hendersj:
>
> Thanks for the links and the clarification on the Leap v TW . . . . I’ll
> check into it and see how the install goes . . . and I’ll post back with
> the developments.
>
> n_s
Sounds good. That info (whether it’s TW or Leap 42.3) should also help
anyone else looking to help you out here.
The proposed partitioning already included a partition for “/”. That’s why you could not select “/”. You would have to unselect the proposed partition (change to “do not mount”).
However, it is probably easier to just ignore the proposal.
Instead of “edit proposed settings” you should click on “create partitioning”. On the next screen, choose “custom partitioning”. That will just give you a list of partitions, with none selected. And then it should be easy for you to assign them as you want.
Thanks very kindly for the reply, I didn’t get a notification on it, but indeed a very helpful post and I will try that when I can get things working on the TW install.
Reason for posting, so I did download the TW “snapshot” and burned it to CD. First problem: when I tried to check the shasum doc linked to the network installer, while in Gecko, I got an error of “could not open document” ??? I believe I tried a few ways, right-click and downloaded it, couldn’t open it – so I couldn’t check the shasum number that was generated on the TW iso file.
Then, burned it to CD a few days back and finally had a few minutes to try an install. Again, due to my slow DSL line, it took about 20 mins for the black page with the “opensuse” yellow-green bar at the bottom of the page to load the data . . . but, rather than going to the GUI installer window I got a red page that said: “Installation system does not match your boot medium, sorry this will not work.” When I clicked OK it went to the installer and it of course showed “install” or “reboot” and I selected “reboot” . . . . At the top of the red error page or the installer page it showed “linuxrc 5.0.102 (kernel 4.11.2-1-default” . . . .
I clicked on the “x86_64” network install window and I picked the “EFI boot” option to run the install on my '12 Mac Pro, as I have for my installs of Gecko, LEAP, and what was the U-MATE 16 system . . . and I had no problem with the install being “OK” and running . . . . I’m in Gecko right now typing this post. So, question is, can the red error warning be ignored safely and/or what’s up with the shasum document that won’t open using Opensuse/Gecko . . . it was something like “file not recognized” as the error there.
Usually the response time on the forum is much zippier . . . hours, rather than days as it has been here. Could anyone offer some insights or comments into the several problems mentioned? the issues with the format of the shasum number document not able to be read in Gecko, and the red “error” window of the TW network installer claiming, “this won’t work out for you” . . . when I’ve managed to install Gecko and reglar LEAP in this computer using “EFI boot” . . . previously with no major problems???
Just trying to get a TW partition installed . . . but, seems to be some issues with the network install iso???
Make a file association with the meta4 file. Use your browser and right-click on the meta4 file and select Save As.
After downloading the meta file, right-click on the file. Make a file association with the meta4 and select kate or kwrite.
It will show your shasum numbers. I also make a file association with" kget" to download the ISO file quickly.
The kget downloader also checks the shasum automatically. You can also download while in your konsole.
Example: wget -c http:link to the ISO.
I’ve had that problem with a Tumbleweed download several months ago. If the shasums don’t match you’ll have to redownload.
I waited for the next build of Tumbleweed to be available for download.
However, when the red window appears again you can select to install to begin and finish your installation…
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Partitioning**
I downloaded the gparted ISO to partition my partitions ahead of time before installing.
Thanks for the details, I’ll check into it later, as now I’m back in OSX . . . as far as the shasum number I did get the console to show the shasum number of the file, but I couldn’t get the posted online file to show the correct number for comparison . . . . But, I get what you are suggesting about using “wget” . . . not overly time consuming for the network installer . . . but, again, it wouldn’t show whether the file I have already burned to CD is OK, or not???
Couple other questions . . . so you are saying that if the shasum number checks out as correct, then, even if the red window error shows again, that I could just jump over that and do the install??
And, right, I think I have GParted installed on the Gecko partition . . . which in this case I did add a partition with OSX DU, perhaps the only difference is that with GParted I could set the format to ext4, and with OSX I can only do fat or, ?exfat? . . . but, I’d still have to pick “create your own scheme” . . . because it seems like in several installs the “proposed scheme(s)” from the LEAP installer picks every partition except the empty partition . . . oddly . . . it seems to want to install on top of the existing LEAP partition . . . .
Anyway, thanks for the hints . . . I haven’t heard of “file association” before your mention of it . . . .
Thanks, didn’t see this post until I posted before . . . worth consideration . . . but, the idea of using the Net install for the tumbling Tumbleweed is . . . more amusing, no?
Later that same day . . . found the “addendum” file in Downloads that shows the shasum number for the file . . . and that number matched the number that the terminal created . . . so, it should be that the file is OK.
So, maybe in a tad bit I’ll try to run the install again . . . and just blast over the red window . . . etc . . . .
I always use custom partitioning. You navigate in the red window using your** ALT key**.
When you select Installation, you will eventually see the white and green backgrounds.
If you decide to eventually use the DVD it offers a rescue mode so that you can reinstall grub2
Thanks again for the follow-up . . . I’ll see when I get a free moment to run the install . . . and see how it goes. But, these days, no, no need for refind anymore; I have it still installed on a MBPro laptop, but actually don’t need it. Just boot with the alt key to get the OSX boot manager window, wait for the DVD/USB drive that shows “EFI boot” . . . and select that one. It installs grub to the EFI partition, and using x86_64 isos provides a bootable system, which, if I want the now OpenSUSE options I just boot the computer w/o any key and it goes to GRUB . . . and I pick the install I want to use.
If I want OSX I boot with the alt key . . . I’ve got 10.9 & 10.12 available if I want to play with OSX . . . or use iCloud or something; otherwise most of the time in Gecko MATE . . . .
Right, never forget about the Alt/option key . . . even in OSX.
So, just to be clear, I’m doing my OpenSUSE installs on a used '12 MacPro desktop . . . but, the MBPro laptop is an 09 model that I got in '10 . . . touchpad still working fine, although in Linux Mint I had some problems with the touchpad being overly sensitive to fingers moving several inches above it, highlighting and erasing text . . . finally got the sage advice to tick “disable tp while typing” in the TP prefs . . .
Buttons fine, the “backlighting” feature is “intermittent” . . . it seems to flash at dusk or something . . . wasn’t enough of a problem back when it was on warranty to waste my time “fixing” it . . . it can be a minor annoyance at times . . . but in LM it doesn’t work so . . . that’s the fix. : - )
Yep, but, “nope” on the network install disk . . . failed again, tried it two times . . . again showing the red “Installation system does not match your boot medium” . . . error, moving passed that to run the “Installation” following the default network selections provided, loads the 6 “installation systems” in about 15 mins on my dsl network . . . and then back to the “So Sorry, this isn’t going to work” . . . selecting “EFI boot medium” . . . which has worked before on the two other OpenSUSE installs I did previously.
Then, after the “Installation systems 1 - 6” downloaded, and the error, tried to “Install again” . . . the 6 systems were not “stored” from the few minutes beforehand, but had to again be virtually downloaded a second time . . . to again “fail.” I then used “expert” to verify the CD and it checked “OK.”
So, my conclusion . . . this ain’t working for Network install. Remembering your mention of “alt” key, when the “error” window was showing I hit “alt” key and probably the “left” arrow key, which took me to a tty window . . . which said something about “consoles 2, 5, 6, and 9 are in use” . . . and then it showed a “404 not found error” message . . . which might be referring to the installation files?? Anyway, giving up on the TW Network install for now . . . I’ll take a look at the bittorrent options that you mentioned and try doing an install DVD and see how that one runs . . . . It might be my destiny to not have a TW install on my Mac Pro . . . could be a bridge too far . . . .
Following the suggestions provided here I finally was able to download the 4GB TW installer and yesterday ran the install, selecting GNOME for the desktop . . . so that all went well. I actually prefer the MATE “pattern” so after running “zypper up” . . . to bring TW more up to date, I then used Yast to select “patterns” . . . and I ticked the “MATE environment” selection . . . a bunch of packages were selected relating to MATE, downloaded and installed . . . had to reboot to get the “MATE” option to show up in the drop down log in window, which I picked, but logging in brought once again the GNOME desktop???
Perhaps this relates to some repo that hasn’t been added?? My question is that if I’m using Yast, I’m selecting the “pattern” tab and the MATE option, why isn’t Yast installing or adding the repo so that there will be an actual “MATE” desktop environment that is distinct from the “GNOME” as is suggested by showing “MATE” as an optional pattern??? I see that various MATE apps are showing up in the GNOME format, but, the MATE layout for the DE isn’t happening??? It appears that “Yast is ‘strong’ . . . but isn’t as ‘powerful’ as it claims to be?” Do I need to add “packman” or some other repo, or specifically something for getting the full MATE pattern to be usable?
I also noticed that with the GNOME installation there were a few other options to log into like “IceWM” . . . that item was listed at the top of the list, but, actual log in was again to the GNOME pattern ??? Thoughts appreciated . . .
