problem with xserver :: kde#

Friends,
I have a opensuse 12.1 64 system that was working happily that now has a problem.
Maybe this happened after an update and then a reBoot.
All i can be certain of is after a reBoot - i lost my gui.

at first the behavior was:
upon start it said " could not start kdeinit4 check installation.
I never see the screen where one can pick user & password.
then with an OK it complains with
no greeter widget plugin found check configuration.

so maybe i was missing the kde-workspace – i tried a few things to install-correct that
eventually i started yast2 in the ‘simple mode’ and then attempted to uninstall all kde4.
I was thinking I could install kde3.n

I tried that … it did not seem to give me kde3.

I now have a simpl xterm
( that is the grey menus ( iceWM -XTerm)
when i open yast2 - software managment patterns

I see where kde 4 desktop enviroment & kde4 base system are NOT checked
X windows system IS checked and kde 3 is NOT show ( as it is on my open suse 11.1 system )

I am wondering id - anyone might think I could reInstall kde4 and that would get me back to the rich gui experience.
What might be the best way to do that?

Why might we think it got broken?

I have an nvidia card.
I do think I have the correct drive.
I feel certain that it is a software problem

what might yall suggest?

thanks

If you have used the NVIDIA driver then you may need to reinstall that after a kernel update.

Very confused about 11.1 and KDE3 can you explain that clearer? KDE3 is available but not really supported anymore. If you uninstalled KDE4 reinstall it.

Can’t you boot in failsafe mode?

The you can open Yast’s Software Manager and check if the kernel-, kernel--source and kernel-syms versions match.

If you can’t get a GUI, you can still use the text version of Yast from the command line. Just login as root and type yast2.

On 2012-07-14 03:26, gogalthorp wrote:
> Very confused about 11.1 and KDE3 can you explain that clearer? KDE3 is
> available but not really supported anymore.

Yes, it is.
It is listed in the official features list.

KDE3

+++··················
As of openSUSE 12.1 KDE 3 desktop is included as officially supported part of the distribution.
Additional KDE 3 software can be installed from community-supported KDE:KDE3 repository.
··················+±

zimbot - read that page, how to install kde3 is explained there.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

I think i do not get an option of booting failsafe mode
I currently have XTERM and run yast2 that way ( much like you describe )

under yast software manager
i seem to NOT have installed any
kernel-, kernel--source and kernel-syms
my kernel-desktop is 3.1.10-1.9.1( 3.1.10-1.16.1)

maybe i should install kde4
or maybe do the 1 click of kde3 or kde4 from here KDE3
I like that idea

maybe what happened was i updated the kernel and needed to update my nvidia driver
I have since updated my nvidia driver – but i also unInstalled kde4

I read some things on google that lead me to think that kde4 had some manner of bug.
i now think kde4 should work just fine.

so ??? do the 1 click of kde4 from KDE3
…maybe. what do you think
i actually thought that would give me kde3 ( that was wrong - that gave me XTERM only … i think )

thanks

I am really hoping to get a wonderful gui back

The * is just a placeholder for your kernel type/version. For example, in my system these files are:

rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-desktop-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.x86_64
kernel-default-devel-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.x86_64
kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.x86_64
kernel-xen-devel-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.x86_64
kernel-source-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.noarch
kernel-devel-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.noarch
kernel-syms-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.x86_64

Without the source, syms and devel packages - or if they are mismatched (different versions), plus make and *gcc, *the nvidia driver can’t recompile itself.

Thanks much
yes - i understood the use of “*” was a “number specific here”
i really do not have those
as in i do
meUser@altman:~> rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-firmware-20111025git-1.7.1.noarch
kernel-desktop-3.1.10-1.9.1.x86_64

and there is this , if i do a

meUser@altman:~> rpm -qa | grep kde
kdebase3-kdm-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64
kde3-knemo-0.4.8-2.1.2.x86_64
kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64
kdebase3-SuSE-lang-11.3-3.1.2.noarch
kdelibs3-3.5.10-52.1.2.x86_64
kde3-amarok-1.4.10-32.31.2.x86_64
lockdev-1.0.3_git201003141408-15.1.2.i586
kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE-11.3-3.1.2.x86_64
kdebase3-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64
kdelibs3-default-style-3.5.10-52.1.2.x86_64
kde3-amarok-xine-1.4.10-32.31.2.x86_64
kde-susetranslations-12.1-11.1.1.noarch
kde3-gtk-qt-engine-0.8svn20071009-3.1.2.x86_64
kdebase3-apps-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64
kde3-amarok-lang-1.4.10-32.31.2.noarch
kdebase3-SuSE-11.3-3.1.2.x86_64
kdelibs3-doc-3.5.10-52.1.2.x86_64
kdebase3-workspace-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64
liblockdev1-1.0.3_git201003141408-15.1.2.i586
kdebase3-ksysguardd-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64
kdebase3-runtime-3.5.10.1-24.5.1.x86_64

so - i am thinking i wish to install , via yast

kernel-desktop-2.6.37.6-0.20.1.x86_64 kernel-default-devel- kernel-desktop-devel- kernel-xen-devel- kernel-source- kernel-devel- kernel-syms-

and maybe
kde4 ( letting yast find the dependencies)
and the kde-workspace

something of that sort – would you agree?

thanks again , this has really been illuminating and a learning experience for me.
( in a way – i have enjoyed that it ‘broke’ – it forces one to have greater understanding of that which …usually just works )

have a great day – i look forward to your insight

jS

Not quite. You should install the kernel-* that match YOUR kernel version, Kernel-desktop-3.1.10-1.9.1.x86_64. Also I think the kernel-default-devel and kernel-xen-devel might not be necessary, don’t select them specifically in yast, if necessary they will be pulled in as a dependency.

I took that listing as an example only, from a oS 11.4 machine, which runs an older kernel than yours.

Also you may want to read the NVidia section of oldcpu’s excellent practical guide at http://forums.opensuse.org/information-new-users/advanced-how-faq-read-only/438705-opensuse-graphic-card-practical-theory-guide-users.html

I’d suggest that first you try to fix the video issue, you can update KDE later.

I have a similar issue.
At the beginning i thought to a gfx-videocard-driver problem but, from terminal and without X running, if i give a “xinit” (both root or normal user), i can use a -little white terminal- opened in the top-left corner of screen, and if i try “glxgears”, “glxinfo” or to start any kde4-programs, all works like if kde4 is running…

So i think (almost mine) isn’t a gfx-driver problem, but a “socket” problem with dbus or similiar… (since, if i try to “startx” i receive a “kdeinit4__0” from “socket” directory file not found…) but i can’t understand what…