Problem with Kaffeine in 11.3

After installing 11.3 as an update from 11.2 Kaffeine was working but Skype was not. Following various suggestions on this site I eventually got Skype working but now Kaffeine crashes every time I try to start it, this is the message I get:

Application: Kaffeine (kaffeine-xbu), signal: Segmentation fault
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f37268a1760 (LWP 26052))]

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7f37158fb710 (LWP 26054)):
#0 0x00007f3725043709 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1 0x00007f372612b951 in metronom_sync_loop () from /usr/lib64/libxine.so.1
#2 0x00007f372503ea4f in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x00007f3723e2e82d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#4 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7f37100e4710 (LWP 26069)):
#0 0x00007f3723e256b3 in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1 0x00007f370f6de9d7 in ao_alsa_handle_event_thread () from /usr/lib64/xine/plugins/1.29/xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so
#2 0x00007f372503ea4f in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x00007f3723e2e82d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#4 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f370f6d9710 (LWP 26071)):
#0 0x00007f372504339c in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1 0x00007f372613d96b in ao_loop () from /usr/lib64/libxine.so.1
#2 0x00007f372503ea4f in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x00007f3723e2e82d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#4 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f37268a1760 (LWP 26052)):
[KCrash Handler]
#5 0x00007f370e31f8be in XF86DRIQueryVersion () from /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1
#6 0x00007f370e31fa59 in XF86DRIQueryExtension () from /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1
#7 0x00007f370e31f38c in ?? () from /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1
#8 0x00007f370e2ff118 in ?? () from /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1
#9 0x00007f370e2fb531 in ?? () from /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1
#10 0x00007f370e2fb70e in glXChooseVisual () from /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1
#11 0x00007f370e4a2295 in opengl_init_class () from /usr/lib64/xine/plugins/1.29/xineplug_vo_out_opengl.so
#12 0x00007f3726130104 in _load_plugin_class () from /usr/lib64/libxine.so.1
#13 0x00007f3726133365 in _x_load_video_output_plugin () from /usr/lib64/libxine.so.1
#14 0x00007f3726133389 in xine_open_video_driver () from /usr/lib64/libxine.so.1
#15 0x0000000000406f4f in _start ()

Can anyone please explain what it all means in very simple English and what an ignoramus can do to put it right?

I should perhaps explain that although I have been using SuSE since version 9 I am totally incapable of understanding terminal work. I have so far managed, to a large extent, by trial and error but it seems that as versions get better it gets more and more difficult to fix problems. The help provided by OpenSUSE is very good but as one gets older it gets more and more difficult to remember instructions so that they can be followed - you need two pc’s one being fixed and a working one to provide the instuctions side by side!
Many thanks to anyone who can help an elderly incompetent,

merkland.

Can you remember what changes you made to get skype working? That might give someone more clues for your problem with Kaffeine.

The xine backend being used by kaffeine does not like the h264 formatted video you are trying to play.

Have you tried to play other video formats with kaffeine?

Unfortunately I do not know specifically what got Skype working, I followed all the various threads and had ensured I had all the required files installed and it was still not working then for some inexplicable reason it started working.
The big problem is when I try something and it does not work I go on to the next suggestion, perhaps I should make a habit of undoing the attempts that don’t work before moving to the next suggestion.

merkland.

oldcpu,

Thank you for your response your posts have been invaluable in helping me in the past.
Kaffeine actually crashes before I get a chance to ask it to do anything so I have not asked it to play any video. When I start Kaffeine it is usually to watch Digital TV which is the 5th selection box on screen when Kaffeine starts.

merkland.

That’s an honest answer - I understand and have been there myself.

Sometimes more than one suggestion is needed, so there is no hard and fast rule on that. You could keep detailed notes of each one you tried, to facilite undoing them one at a time if and when necessary, or to provide info here for example.

The only thing I can think of trying, is to open Terminal (commandline) as normal user and start Kaffeine by entering kaffeine. You may get more information as the error messages appear in Terminal. Copy/paste the messages and post them here.

Just tried the suggestion of opening Kaffeine in terminal it crashes just the same and this is all terminal tells me:
Application ‘kaffeine-xbu’ crashing…
sock_file=/home/john/.kde4/socket-linux-o2jn/kdeinit4__0

I’m afraid it doesn’t mean anything to me other than it is still crashing.

merkland.

Ok. What version of kaffeine do you have installed? On 11.3 I have: kaffeine-1.0-1.pm.2.1.x86_64

Also, what version for installed libqt4 packages i.e. names beginning “libqt4” (you can search on libqt4 in Yast2)? I have six packages, all at 4.6.3-1.5 except one (libqt4-sql-mysql at 4.6.3-1.3).

Have same version as you installed for Kaffeine.
Have a total of twelve libqt4 installed all 4.6.3-1.5 except two at 4.6.3-1.3(libqt4-sql-mysql and libqt4-sql-mysql -32bit)
The difference from you is that I have all the 32bit versions of libqt4 as well as the 64bit.

merkland.

Ok. Needed to check those, as I found a Skype problem thread that had one suggestion of upgrading one of those libqt4 to the level we have, and another suggesting updating all to that level as a fix.

Kaffeine uses xine, so it could be useful to try another xine based player. Have you installed xine-ui? You could try that. If not can you install it from packman(?) You will get a menu entry at Applications>Multimedia>Video Player>xine. If it works, that should eliminate xine from the problem. If it fails, run xine-ui from the terminal as well, just to make sure you get all the error info.

You could check to see what applications you installed around the time you solved the Skype problem and encountered the kaffeine problem.

If you type:

rpm -qa --last > myrpms.txt

and open myrpms.txt with a text editor, you will be able to see the chronological order of applications installed, and you may be able to detect what applications were installed when this problem started.

Many thanks for your attempts to help me.
Just had a look at myrpms.txt and I think I have managed to ‘muddy the waters’ so badly that I think I am going to have to do a new clean install and then cautiously pick off the problems one at a time.
Will report back if I am successful or not.

merkland.

You are welcome.

That’s probably the expedient thing to do. If it’s any consolation I will probably replace my 11.3, upgraded from 11.2 on my notebook, with a clean install even though all the apps appear to be working. The clean 11.3 install on my test partition seems to boot faster than the upgraded system does.

Let us know how it goes.

Well I have learnt one lesson: Never install a new O.S. as an update to an existing system!
The re-install as a clean system has resolved most of the previous problems and I am just left with three niggles:

  1. Kaffeine will not play an audio CD playback stops and starts repeatedly.

  2. Have not been able to find out how to get my Wacom graphics tablet to work in the absence of sax2.

  3. This came to light as a result of 2. was wanting to see if tablet was recognised so did Yast/Hardware/Hardware Information, program starts probing system then having completed anything over 25% PC freezes and I have to power off then reboot to regain control of the PC.

I will search the forum but anyone got any pointers to save time?
Many thanks,

merkland

I recommend you start a new thread for each.

As for the absence of sax2, sax2 is no longer maintained, so even if you were to use it, the odds are it won’t work. Still, if you want to try it, it IS available in a 3rd party/user’s home repository (you need sax2, sax2-gui, and their dependencies):

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/flacco/openSUSE_11.3/

or another home repository:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/anubisg1:/branches:/X11:/Utilities/openSUSE_11.3/

… but PLEASE do NOT continue sax2 discussions here !! This is totally the wrong thread! Please start a NEW thread.

Thank you (in advance) for starting a NEW thread. I will not reply to further sax2 posts on this thread.

Good luck.