System spec’s
Toshiba Satellite M35X
1.4GHz Cpu Celeron
Video 82852/855GM
2GB RAM
160GB HD
I have openSUSe 11.2 and Ubuntu 9.10 istalled both working fine for the most part but when I play a DVD on openSUSE it goes black when I move the window, and on Ubuntu it doesn’t do that. The system is up to date on software and I’m running Gnome desktop.
On both desktops I have Compiz installed, on the openSUSE when I grab the window it fades to about 80% (very little fading) and on the Ubuntu it fades to about 0% (no fading). So seeing how there is no fading of the window under Ubuntu where do I change the settings under openSUSE?
Is there a setting that I’m missing or is there some tweak I could do to fix this?
I tried to install openSUSE 11.3 on here but had problems with the video because it’s 855GM Intel for some reason 11.3 does not like it very well. The same reason that Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 would not install on here. I wold say that the laptop is about 7 or more years of age but what the hell I paid $200 for a screen and $200 for Ram so now I have a nice little laptop. I know you can get a faster one now days but this was about 3 years ago that I did it.
> I tried to install openSUSE 11.3 on here but had problems with the
> video because it’s 855GM Intel for some reason 11.3 does not like it
> very well. The same reason that Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 would not
> install on here. I wold say that the laptop is about 7 or more years of
> age but what the hell I paid $200 for a screen and $200 for Ram so now I
> have a nice little laptop. I know you can get a faster one now days but
> this was about 3 years ago that I did it.
Please, report this in a Bugzilla!
Or they will say there are no issues. Please do report ASAP.
I have a laptop, year old, with GM45 video. It flickers and is slow on 11.3.
About compiz - I don’t use it, but in gnome it is configured in the control center, desktop effects
or thereabouts.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Not sure I understand this comment. I have a lenovo notebook, 9 months old, with Intel GM45 chipset. It doesn’t flicker on 11.3 and is not slow, but it does need the “intellegacy” driver to avoid Flash full screen freezing. What could be the difference?
On 2010-10-09 00:06, consused wrote:
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> Carlos E. R.;2234812 Wrote:
>>
>> … I have a laptop, year old, with GM45 video. It flickers and is slow
>> on 11.3.
> Not sure I understand this comment. I have a lenovo notebook, 9 months
> old, with Intel GM45 chipset. It doesn’t flicker on 11.3 and is not
> slow, but it does need the “intellegacy” driver to avoid Flash full
> screen freezing. What could be the difference?
I’m using defaults.
Try extreme-tuxracer, or glxgears, then compare with 11.2 results.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Hmm, I wasn’t clear enough. My main partition has 11.3 upgraded from a default install of 11.2 including default “intel” driver. Doesn’t appear to flicker or be slow, but Flash full-screen fails. My testing partition had a clean default 11.3 install and Flash full-screen also failed, but it now loads “intellegacy” as a successful workaround.
Will try glxgears, but I don’t recall the 11.2 results. If glxgears didn’t run smoothly, I would tend to assume the issue is glxgears (it’s happened before).
On 2010-10-09 14:06, consused wrote:
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> Carlos E. R.;2235444 Wrote:
>> On 2010-10-09 00:06, consused wrote:
>> I’m using defaults.
>>
>> Try extreme-tuxracer, or glxgears, then compare with 11.2 results.
> Hmm, I wasn’t clear enough. My main partition has 11.3 upgraded from a
> default install of 11.2 including default “intel” driver. Doesn’t appear
> to flicker or be slow, but Flash full-screen fails. My testing partition
> had a clean default 11.3 install and Flash full-screen also failed, but
> it now loads “intellegacy” as a successful workaround.
>
> Will try glxgears, but I don’t recall the 11.2 results. If glxgears
> didn’t run smoothly, I would tend to assume the issue is glxgears (it’s
> happened before).
It is a small partition dedicated to test factory, which now contains 11.3. Not upgraded. One work
partition for 11.2, one small for testing new version. I don’t have to remember how it worked, I
have both systems.
It (gears) runs smooth but slower, something like 400 fps in 11.2 and 62 in 11.3. Games that use 3D
or accelerated graphics, like tuxracer, flicker; some a lot, some a little.
I’m not going to change drivers, I expect Intel graphics to work out of the box. It’s open, is it
not? Then they must repair it. It worked fine in 11.2 (which is my workaround).
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
One thing I do remember from 11.2 on this notebook was that the glxgears FPS rate was lower than expected, but bearing this disclaimer in mind:
*** NOTE: Don't use glxgears as a benchmark.
OpenGL implementations are not optimized for frame rates >> 60fps,
thus these numbers are meaningless when compared between vendors.
I get these glxgears results for the above two 11.3 installs:
Main 11.3 (upgraded 11.2) KDE 4.4.4
intel driver: 62-63 FPS with smooth rendering of gears
(C2D running at 15% cpu util)
Xorg.0.log for direct rendering:
25.589] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
Test 11.3 (clean install) KDE 4.5.1
intellegacy driver: 400-477 FPS with jerky rendering of gears
(C2D running at 12% cpu util)
Xorg.0.log for direct rendering:
27.979] (II) intellegacy(0)direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
So far, only better for Flash full-screen using BBC iPlayer (with “intel” on mine it always fails). However, I haven’t played any serious 3D games on this notebook.
IIRC “intellegacy” was already installed with 11.3, but not loaded by Xorg autoconfig (defaulted to “intel”). I implemented it as described in this post.
I’m not on my test system with “intellegacy” at the moment, but had noticed that Intel XvMC decoder was disabled in Xorg.0.log, but it’s enabled on this one with “intel” driver. Will have to do further testing and comparison to see if any difference in local video performance caused by that is significant. :\
Well the main problem I’m have is with the Totem or VLC player window, I can play flash at full screen with no problem. What I have found out is if I turn off hte desktop effects they play a movie fine but with the effects on the screen will go black if you touch it then you have to grab the windows a few time to get to show the movie again.
But when I boot into Ubuntu 9.10 both Totem and VLC work fine even with the Desktop effects on.
Hope we haven’t hijacked your thread, but all my tests were done with KDE with KDE desktop effects enabled. I only have VLC on the test system (intellegacy driver) and it works very well.
@caf4926
Have now tested video and DVD playback with “intel” and “intellegacy” drivers. Didn’t notice any significant differences between the two drivers on my notebook, where the cpu utilizations where all in the range 7-15% during playback.
TBH I have never had any trouble with my Intel drivers as supported Out of the Box with openSUSE or any other Distro for that matter.
Obviously I’m careful choosing my hardware in the first place or may be I’m just lucky!?
That’s the way it should be with intel. That’s the way it was on 11.2, the right support working OOTB. On 11.3, it mostly works OOTB, but for the flash full-screen failure bugs that were reported and discussed by some technically capable users. Everything else I need works fine on both drivers.
I don’t know exactly what your intel chipset is - couldn’t see “Intel M4 graphics” listed on the intel website as a chipset. The actual graphics adapter provided by GM45 chipset has been around for a while now, so neither bad luck nor careless selection is a factor here.
@caf4926
We have the same GM45 Express chipset and same display info from sysinfo:/ (My Comp). I am on the latest openSUSE 11.3 desktop kernel (via official Update repo). What about you?
What command did you use to get the preceding report? Some of that info is matched in my KDE Info Centre>PCI, but I would prefer to compare directly with yours.
The same reason that Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 would not install on here. I wold say that the laptop is about 7 or more years of age but what the hell I paid $200 for a screen and $200 for Ram so now I have a nice little laptop. I know you can get a faster one now days but this was about 3 years ago that I did it.