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Hello
I am newbie with opensuse, and i don’t know what happend with the upper bar of application and palces, it diseapper.

Is there a way to restore it, thank you.

Have a nice day :wink:

Hello Ochotre and welcome to the openSUSE forums. Sorry to hear of your problems. We need to know just a little more about your openSUSE installation. Can you tell us what openSUSE version you have installed (12.1 or 11.4), if this is a 32 or 64 bit install and what Desktop that you have selected (KDE or GNOME). This added information can help us pin point where the trouble might be on your computers Linux installation.

Thank You,

Thank you,

It’s 12.1 32 bits and gnome 3.2

So are you using Gnome now or something else to post online here? When you start Gnome, is the top panel always missing? Can you recall what you did just before the top panel went away?

I can say that I have not had this problem before. Searching around on this same problem did not find any quick fixes that I understood how to tell someone else how to perform the task.

Thank You,

Yep I’m using gnome, becouse I use alt + F1 to select what I want.
Yes the top panel is but empty, no clock, no applications, no places, no shut down opcion.
I was working with libreoffice writter (with almost 3 docs opens) and i wanted to put the desktop option like a quick acces buttom, when I dragged it the computer crash. I waitted a little bit and then a message appear. Ti said something that the top panel was crashed down, do you like to rebbot or reloed it. I select No.
Then only appear the desktop icon with anything more, I restar the computer and nothing…
Thanks again

On 2012-03-24 04:06, Ochotre wrote:
> appear. Ti said something that the top panel was crashed down, do you
> like to rebbot or reloed it. I select No.

That was it, you said no, so it was removed. When you exited, it saved the
configuration without panel for the next login.

A possibility is to use a new user, or to delete all gnome configuration
directories.

O start a new user, see running apps in “gnome-session-properties”, maybe
the panel is there.

Or start “gnome-panel” - no, you need to link it to the session…


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Although I haven’t touched Gnome in years,

Shouldn’t it be possible to simply enable a new panel?

Apparently things may have changed for Gnome 3 according to this article which might be helpful to you

How to create custom application launchers in Gnome 3 | Randell’s Blog

HTH,
TS

On 2012-03-24 21:06, tsu2 wrote:
>
> Although I haven’t touched Gnome in years,
>
> Shouldn’t it be possible to simply enable a new panel?

The problem I see is that the panel is launched with many options - in my 11.4:


> 5293 ?        Ssl    0:00          \_ /usr/bin/gnome-session
>  5405 ?        Sl     0:23              \_ metacity --sm-client-id 109611a9d42e49b6f5125949201545558700000038070025
>  5407 ?        Sl     1:04              \_ gnome-panel --sm-config-prefix /gnome-panel-iIR8Qy/ --sm-client-id 109611a9d42e49b6f5125949201545607500000038070026 --screen 0

If you launch it separately, it will not be a child of gnome-session and it
will not have the correct id. But gnome-session-properties has a list of
what it should launch.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Ok i did a new account and BINGO!!!rotfl! it is like newone, but…

I delete the last account and “keep the documents and temporal files” but i have no permission to acces them :O… what sould i do.

Thanks again!

You can press Alt-F2 and enter the command: gnomesu nautilus, enter the root user password and then use the File Manager to move your old files to your new location. Because you created them as your old persona, each and every file will be owned by your old self. If its just a dozen or so, you can change the properties on each such that the owner is the new you. Or, you might, after you have recovered all that was yours, delete your old self, then add yourself back in with the same old name. It all has to do with permissions and the exact user name used to create these files. In KDE, one can cause KDE to redo everything by a simple delete of the hidden file.kde4 in your /home area. I wonder if there is not a similar trick you could use with GNOME, that would let you use your old self and not have to move and change the permissions of every single file you own?

Thank You,

On 2012-03-26 02:36, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
> Or, you might, after you have recovered all that
> was yours, delete your old self, then add yourself back in with the same
> old name. It all has to do with permissions and the exact user name
> used to create these files.

But he would have to recreate the old user with the same UID as he had
before. The name doesn’t really matter, it is the UID number which matters.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

So, what is your solution Carlos? Why is the UID not a problem when you reload your openSUSE version, doing a clean install, but not formatting your old /home/username area? How is the UID created in the first place?

Thank You,

YUPIIII!!!

Thanks all of you for the patient and the interest you have in solve the problems we have. This really is like a little comunity ;).

Every action we do for the world with love, its a heroic action. rotfl!

Remain happy and lighty lol!

First UID is always 1000 in OpenSUSE. So if you are always the first user it will always match.

Next user defaults to 1001 but you ca override that.

In any case applying chown to all recurivly as root will swithch all the files to a new ownership.

Also if a new user works deleting the ~/.gnome directories in the original as root should do the trick also since it is something in the gnome config files that is messed up. Note should be done from a terminal not while gnome is using those configs :slight_smile:

On 2012-03-26 03:46, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:

> So, what is your solution Carlos? Why is the UID not a problem when
> you reload your openSUSE version, doing a clean install, but not
> formatting your old /home/username area? How is the UID created in the
> first place?

You don’t really know? :open_mouth:

Read gogalthorp explanation, it explains your question.

If that is not enough, I might perhaps do a writeup on linux ownerships,
but that is explained on basic unix/linux manuals, there may be hundreds in
Internet.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2012-03-26 03:46, gogalthorp wrote:
>
> First UID is always 1000 in OpenSUSE. So if you are always the first
> user it will always match.
>
> Next user defaults to 1001 but you ca override that.

And, during installation over a previous installation, you have the chance
to tell the system to read the previous fstab and also the previous list of
users, IDs, and passwords. It is a nice feature.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

It would be best for any post to attempt to include a solution such as provided by gogalthorp for which I provide thanks. I, unlike some others don’t claim to have all of the answers for every problem that might exist, but I do try to help every time I can.

Thank You,

I wouldn’t do it to all files - you never know - but to all files belonging to the user. Example:

$ su -l
# find /home/olduser -uid 1001 -exec chown 1002 "{}" ";"

Replace 1001 and 1002 with the appropriate uuids of your users.

On 2012-03-26 13:16, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
>
> It would be best for any post to attempt to include a solution such as
> provided by gogalthorp for which I provide thanks. I, unlike some
> others don’t claim to have all of the answers for every problem that
> might exist, but I do try to help every time I can.

Exactly, absolutely to all that - which is why I pointed to an error in
your solution.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

If you don’t explicitely specify the UID, it takes the next free UID starting at UID_MIN defined in /etc/login.defs. You can change the default value (1000).