Problem in updating opensuse 11.4

On 04/27/2011 09:33 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2011-04-27 19:36, gropiuskalle wrote:
>>
>> No, it’s a bug. It just shouldn’t happen.
>
> The devs say you should use “su -” in the bugzillas I have read.

bug or not, it is the way to have success until the devs find “the
bug”…for now they are changing the documentation to reflect “su -”
instead of “su”, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682726

my guess is they never find “the bug”…(because it has existed longer
than Linus has been involved with Linux…)


CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[openSUSE 11.3 + KDE4.5.5 + Thunderbird3.1.8 via NNTP]
HACK Everything → http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5b4CCe9pS8&NR=1

ok thank you

but How can I remove this message?

The following package updates will NOT be installed:
gstreamer-0_10-libnice gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good
libgstbasecamerabinsrc-0_10-0 libgstbasevideo-0_10-0 libgstphotography-0_10-0
libgstsignalprocessor-0_10-0 libgstvdp-0_10-0 libvpx0 libwavpack1 mjpegtools
mobile-broadband-provider-info taglib

Nothing to do.

First try to solve this bug and then update again.

Yaser89 wrote:

>
> ok thank you
>
> but How can I remove this message?
>
>> The following package updates will NOT be installed:
>> gstreamer-0_10-libnice gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad
>> gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good
>> libgstbasecamerabinsrc-0_10-0 libgstbasevideo-0_10-0
>> libgstphotography-0_10-0
>> libgstsignalprocessor-0_10-0 libgstvdp-0_10-0 libvpx0 libwavpack1
>> mjpegtools
>> mobile-broadband-provider-info taglib
>>
>> Nothing to do.
>>
You cannot remove this message because it is simply an information not a
bug. It shows you that for some package updates are available but will not
be installed because you decided to use the packages from a repository which
is different to the repository which contains the newer versions.
This is completely ok and helps you that the system does not break.


PC: oS 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | KDE 4.6.2 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.6.0 | nVidia
ION | 3GB Ram

Thank you very much

I have tried to fix the bug
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672793#c0
but I can’t fix it

su -c ‘zypper ref’

GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
Repository ‘Packman Repository’ is up to date.
**
GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
Repository ‘libdvdcss repository’ is up to date.
**
GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
Repository ‘openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss’ is up to date.
**
GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
Repository ‘openSUSE-11.4-Oss’ is up to date.
**
GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
Repository ‘openSUSE-11.4-Update’ is up to date.
**
GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
Repository ‘Contrib’ is up to date.
All repositories have been refreshed.

On 2011-04-29 18:36, Yaser89 wrote:
> but I can’t fix it
>> > su -c ‘zypper ref’

Sigh… Use “su - …”


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Thank you
can you give me an example please?
Is it “su - zypper up”?

ok
“su -”
enter password
then
zypper up

thank you

Yaser89 wrote:

>
> ok
> “su -”
> enter password
> then
> zypper up
>
> thank you
>
You can also shorten that to one line:
su - -c ‘zypper up’


PC: oS 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | KDE 4.6.2 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.6.0 | nVidia
ION | 3GB Ram

On 2011-04-29 17:06, Yaser89 wrote:
>
> In Yast no updates available (0)
> thank you

Yast online update is the same as zypper patch, not zypper up.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Thank you all for your direction in this matter.

I am also unable to update packages for my fresh install of openSUSE 11.4. Although I am a KDE user, I seem to get the same error, and have tried running zypper as root, su, and su -, all with the same results!

Now, I have had similar problems with SuSE (i.e SUSE, openSUSE, et al) for the last several releases; all issues were related to YaST updates. For the first time since 1998 I am considering switching distributions.

I have never been afraid to do all of the initial tinkering that comes with a new install, knowing that once complete I would never need to touch it again until I decided to install a newer release. However, I have invested quite a bit of time into this problem, and there appears to be no fix for this issue. I am beyond frustrated! >:(

After fuming about my (very similar) problem, I found this link:

zypper update gets stuck

As it turns out, my issue had to do with the network card, “3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74)”

After swapping out the cards I was able to install the updates and desired software without a hitch.

I hope that helps…

~roberfo

Hi all,

I’m new to opensuse, looking to go KDE - I’m a long-term Mint/Gnome user and I like some of the opensuse reviews and comments.

So, I’ve installed 11.4, smooth apart from a problem with Grub due to several distros trying to multiboot, my fault! I’m in, as I’m writing this from 11.4 via Firefox.

My problem is that I ran update in YaST with just two updates, took about a minute, great. I started to install Marble; checking the “Installation Summary” button in YaST shows that the system wants to download another 657Mb!!! I live in a rural area with around 1Mb broadband (variable), and downloading a full distro of about 700 Mb takes around three hours.

Is this size of update/download normal? If so, I can’t afford the connection time to stick with suse, Mint has nothing like this size.

Running su -c ‘zypper ref’ gives (summary only):

The following product is going to be reinstalled:
openSUSE 11.4

The following package is going to change architecture:
apparmor-profiles i586 -> noarch

212 packages to upgrade, 76 new, 1 to remove, 1 to change arch.
Overall download size: 273.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 234.5 MiB
will be used.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): n
owen@linux-jp2l:~>

Which is a large amount but different to YaST’s figure.

Advice greatly appreciated!

On 09/20/2011 11:36 AM, owend wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m new to opensuse, looking to go KDE - I’m a long-term Mint/Gnome
> user and I like some of the opensuse reviews and comments.
>
> So, I’ve installed 11.4, smooth apart from a problem with Grub due to
> several distros trying to multiboot, my fault! I’m in, as I’m writing
> this from 11.4 via Firefox.
>
> My problem is that I ran update in YaST with just two updates, took
> about a minute, great. I started to install Marble; checking the
> “Installation Summary” button in YaST shows that the system wants to
> download another 657Mb!!! I live in a rural area with around 1Mb
> broadband (variable), and downloading a full distro of about 700 Mb
> takes around three hours.
>
> Is this size of update/download normal? If so, I can’t afford the
> connection time to stick with suse, Mint has nothing like this size.
>
> Running su -c ‘zypper ref’ gives (summary only):
>
> The following product is going to be reinstalled:
> openSUSE 11.4
>
> The following package is going to change architecture:
> apparmor-profiles i586 -> noarch
>
>
> 212 packages to upgrade, 76 new, 1 to remove, 1 to change arch.
> Overall download size: 273.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 234.5
> MiB
> will be used.
> Continue? [y/n/?] (y): n
> owen@linux-jp2l:~>
>
>
> Which is a large amount but different to YaST’s figure.
>
> Advice greatly appreciated!

so, you come into openSUSE (-=WELCOME=- new poster, by the way) some six
or so months into the ‘cycle’ of openSUSE 11.4 and we are a FAST moving
distro…meaning, there have been LOTS and LOTS of security patches and
bug squashing updates since the release CD or DVD were made…so, i have
no idea what that only 2 updates was about, but the GIANT 6+Gb one is
most likely because if you had installed on release day, then by now
(months later) you might have had that 675mb of updates spread out
across the 180 or so days in between…

or, maybe 273.6 mb is the size of the Marble (i do not know, maybe it
needs to pull in a bunch of gnome basics) and the other 300+ are the
updates…i’d recommend you drop the Marble for now and instead allow
the updates (for security reasons one should move the eye candy to a
lower priority, maybe?)

also of MUCH lower priority (and just trying to give you info for next
time you have a questoin ): i have almost no idea how things work on
other linux forums, but here we like to see a clear subject which
actually reflects the question asked (that way the folks with the
knowledge might find your subject interesting and look in–and, folks
who know nothing about the subject and just skip it)…which most often
means that each new problem/person is just about forced to begin a new
thread for each problem (like, your quesion is only generally about
updating, but specifically more like: Is a CD sized update normal?)

another way of saying that is: your question has mostly nothing to do
with the thread it landed in…

again, welcome…hope you find a way to try out openSUSE…probably the
least pain way on a slow connection would be to download the DVD via
torrent a few days after initial release, install from that and then
take the updates as they come…i had one this morning, took about a
minute…had one a couple of days ago took less than three minutes, etc
etc etc etc etc…from where you are today, i recommend you open YaST,
go Software Repositories and make sure you have only FOUR repo enabled:
oss, non-oss, update and packman, no others! if there are other disable
them (for now), then go YaST > Online Update and you will see packages
split between “Security” and “Recommended” take all the security
updates, and mark the others (right click and select “Do not install” or
“Taboo”) then click “Accept” and walk away from the machine…do not
abort it or force kill it…yes, it might take an hour or two…

others might have other recommendations, listen…


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

Thanks, DD: I should have started a new thread!

I only had oss, non-oss and update repos enabled; I’ve started to install the security patches as you recommend.

Sorry to appear too newbie, I’ve got used to mint and Gnome, and to honest I’d sort of overlooked about 11.4 being well into its cycle.

I’ll finish the security update before I complain any more!

Owen

On 2011-09-20 13:36, owend wrote:
>
> Thanks, DD: I should have started a new thread!

Yes indeed :slight_smile:

> I only had oss, non-oss and update repos enabled; I’ve started to
> install the security patches as you recommend.

Yes, the size is probably normal, after several months of corrections.
Normally the actual size to download will be much lower, because yast will
try to use “delta” packages.

As long as you don’t have to pay per actual megabyte downloaded, just be
patient :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 09/20/2011 01:36 PM, owend wrote:

> Sorry to appear too newbie, I’ve got used to mint and Gnome, and to
> honest I’d sort of overlooked about 11.4 being well into its cycle.
>
> I’ll finish the security update before I complain any more!

sorry, i didn’t intend to say you were moaning/complaining…i do
understand your shock!! (and, i could pretty much tell you were not
abject n00b to linux, just learning your way around the non-apt
world…which is one reason i suggest using YaST (because it is a dandy
GUI alternative to (apt-like) zypper…and, besides package management
it is just packed with other goodies…

by the way, IGNORE the thing in the ‘system tray’ (named kpackagekit)
which tells you updates are needed…as far as i know it is still pretty
flakey…instead always use YaST > Online Update… [aka: YOU]

you can right click kpackage kit and set it to never update…but, even
then it might/will?] sometimes signal an update is required/suggested
when YOU won’t show that…just always assume kpackagekit is wrong…

or ask here if you want reassurance…(personally, i used YaST >
Software Management to delete kpackagekit (notice, i did not write
packagekit…i hear that is alright, but i ignore it also)

oh, you don’t have packman repo enabled yet probably because you have
not yet tried to play some music, or watch a youtube, etc etc…the open
in openSUSE means it is all free and OPEN software…when you need
proprietary, codecs etc they are usually in packman (a repo outside of
Attachmate/openSUSE Community and therefore can’t be sued by whoever
would like to…to get your multimedia rolling follow this:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/advanced-how-faq-read-only/452883-multimedia-one-click.html

then read the paragraph beginning with “IMPORTANT” here
http://tinyurl.com/33qc9vu so you know why i tell you: anytime you use a
1-Click install (btw they are about 1-Dozen-Clicks) go to YaST >
Software Repositories and make sure you still have only four repos enabled…

and, btw (more) both oss and non-oss are static (frozen with the DVD/CD)
so you only need to enable refreshing on update and packman)

and there is lots more here which is different from apt-get-land,
suggest you peek at

http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu-to-openSUSE
http://tinyurl.com/32g4nmp <those are “new user” how-tos, don’t let that
throw you, they are much more new-to-openSUSE, than new to Linux…
the top three ‘stickies’ probably interesting, even though you have
already done a lot of that stuff…

and, if you get stuck there is always doc.opensuse.org and the wiki at
en.opensuse.org…and, HERE of course!!


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems