Problem booting either Vista or openSUSE

When I first turn on I get the windows boot manager where I can choose between openSUSE 11.2 installer (LOCAL) and Windows Vista. Selecting either has the same result of trying to boot the openSUSE. This results in error 17 and pressing any key takes me to the GRUB4DOS where I can get to the command prompt. This is about as much as I can do at the moment, any help would be appreciated.

flobadobadie wrote:
> When I first turn on I get the windows boot manager

-=welcome=- new poster…

why do you have a “windows boot manager” and not grub?? a default
install would provide a functioning grub…what did you do instead?

sounds like your “windows boot manager” is broken and i wouldn’t have
a clue how to start fixing it…

you may want to ask here how to replace it with a functioning grub, or
ask how to fix the windows thing in a windows forum…


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I installed it from here openSUSE.org isn’t the GRUB4DOS a functioning grub? When I get to the command prompt it says “grub>” .

flobadobadie wrote:

> isn’t the GRUB4DOS

sorry i missed that in your initial post…but, now that i see it i
know i’ve never heard of it before–and have no idea if the
instructions here (written for grub) will work for grub4dos:

http://en.opensuse.org/All_About_Grub

or, this http://tinyurl.com/2w47q9k is a google of this search string:
grub “dual boot” “11.2” vista
which may also contain an/the answer…but, i’m not sure because a
similar search using the term grub4dos turned up nothing

i wonder how you specified it to use grub4dos instead of grub…or
maybe i’m simply confused…

did you do this http://tinyurl.com/yajm2aq before install attempt?

you might be well advised to wait for more competent assistance to
come riding over the hill…


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Can you be more specific about the install method, In particular, did you use an install from windows option?

Installation method: I was pretty stupid in doing this. I originally just had Vista then I downloaded from here Software.openSUSE.org , unzipped using 7zip, restarted the computer and I got to where I am now. I did not partition the hd or anything that I was probably supposed to do. I’m not really sure what you mean by “install from windows option”. DenverD, i looked at the links you posted but could not find anything that helps.

I am still a bit confused, did you boot directly into an openSUSE install from the disk, or did you boot into windows first, and run the install from there?

Please be clear, it makes a big difference as to how we answer this.

EDIT : it seems you ran the install from windows, yes?

AFAICT OP unpacked the downloaded iso, then used grub4dos to get it started.

To the OP: a warm welcome here. From what you write I get that you need some reading to be done. A linux install is not too complicated, but it’s not as simple as unpacking a file to disk. Please read the NEW Users - Suse-11.2 Pre-installation – PLEASE READ - openSUSE Forums first.

I haven’t got a disk, I was booted into Windows at the time, I tried to install it (the installation didn’t work, I think it said it couldn’t find a file) so I gave up, then the next time i rebooted i was stuck. So yes, I did install from windows. Knurpht, I know I should have read what you linked before I tried installing but seeing as I have already tried installing and i am now in a situation which doesn’t allow me just to try again, it doesn’t really help.

flobadobadie wrote:
> the next time i rebooted i was stuck.

ok, now i kinda begin to understand, you went to
http://software.opensuse.org/112/en, picked your desired version to
download, hit a download button and didn’t read anything below the
button…like, where it says:

[QUOTE]
How to Proceed

  1. After having successfully downloaded the ISO image(s), burn the
    image(s) with your favorite burning application to a DVD or CD. Please
    do not burn a data DVD/CD, but rather choose the option to burn an ISO
    image. More information
  2. Boot from the DVD or CD. In case your computer does not
    automatically boot from CD/DVD, open the BIOS setup to allow booting
    from CD or DVD.

[QUOTE]

hmmmmm…how to recover?
i guess since you can’t boot that machine again you should download
the DVD or CD again, on another machine…and, this time read and
follow the directions to make an install disk, and then boot from
it…hopefully it will be smart enough to see a windows system on the
disk and not think the who thing is junk and just wipe it out…(by
the way, it may be junk…hope you didn’t have anything on there
that was important, and not backed up…

this short checklist should be helpful in doing it correctly:

  1. back up your data before you begin
  2. get your install image from http://software.opensuse.org/112/en
  3. check the md5sum of the downloaded iso
  4. do this http://tinyurl.com/yajm2aq before install attempt

if don’t know how to any of those then do step one and see the
following cites:
http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Help
http://tinyurl.com/yhf65pv
http://tinyurl.com/ycly3eg


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I don’t have the time I need to help with this right now, what I think has happened is that the openSUSE installer has used a third party program to alter the the windows boot loader for an install from windows situation, and something went wrong. This is fixable (but perhaps not easy) I will check back after work, (hopefully fixed by then).

I’ll probably do what DenverD is suggesting. I’ll tell you if it works.

It is very possible you destroyed the Windows partition by not following the instructions. Do you have a Windows install disk? Do you have important data on the Windows partition? It may be possible to rescue the data when you get a working Linux.

You could also boot from a liveCD and attempt to copy needed files from there before proceeding further, if you can mount the partition with the liveCD.