Printer Problem...

I’m trying to get my a Brother MFC-210C working in suse11.

under configure printer its recognized in “location” and description as being a Brother MFC-210C, which is correct. However, when I try to select its driver under “change model” (since there is no model listed in this space) I find an absence of the MFC-210C under model. I’m assuming this is where the driver would be located…

…yet I have the MFC210C driver downloaded according to yast and was told that it was already installed when i tried from Brother’s site.

Perhaps I’m missing something to do with CUPS? I’m not sure, I dont have a lot of experience setting up printers in linux.

When I try to print (in programs) the printer shows up as a selection…but nothing goes to the printer. Yet, I think I’ve downloaded the LNR or whatever its called driver…I guess the printer just isnt getting the info even though the suse sees it there…

Any help would be appreciated :slight_smile:

edit: I’m running in 64 bit, btw. I dont know if this needs to go in the 64bit forum or not though.

If there is a printer driver listed for a different printer in the same series, try installing that. Very often there is no practical difference between the drivers for different printers in the same series.

It may not work but it is worth trying as it may save you a lot of grief if it does,

thisredbox wrote:

>
> I’m trying to get my a Brother MFC-210C working in suse11.
>
> under configure printer its recognized in “location” and description as
> being a Brother MFC-210C, which is correct. However, when I try to
> select its driver under “change model” (since there is no model listed
> in this space) I find an absence of the MFC-210C under model. I’m
> assuming this is where the driver would be located…
>
> …yet I have the MFC210C driver downloaded according to yast and was
> told that it was already installed when i tried from Brother’s site.
>
> Perhaps I’m missing something to do with CUPS? I’m not sure, I dont
> have a lot of experience setting up printers in linux.
>
> When I try to print (in programs) the printer shows up as a
> selection…but nothing goes to the printer. Yet, I think I’ve
> downloaded the LNR or whatever its called driver…I guess the printer
> just isnt getting the info even though the suse sees it there…
>
> Any help would be appreciated :slight_smile:
>
> edit: I’m running in 64 bit, btw. I dont know if this needs to go in
> the 64bit forum or not though.
>
>

Please try installing your printer using the CUPS system (vs. YaST). You
will need your root password.

With your browser of choice, bring up http://localhost:631

Go to ‘Administration’, ‘Add Printer’ (Hey, it’s on the main page too…
missed that!)

Give it a meaningful name, location, description (Mine usually consists
of “hp”, “Under the Desk”, “Stupid printer!”). The ‘name’ is the important
part, as that’s what you’ll see in programs when you choose to print.

Hmmm, I just searched brother’s site for some linux info… they have a page
showing how to install needed drivers… you’ve likely already been here:

http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/

And of course, a more detailed page (from the above page):

http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_wrapper_install.html

You will not likely need to set a password for the CUPS system (Notes, 3rd
entry), since OpenSUSE 11.0 has done that already. (user:root/pass:root’s
password)

You may find that deleting the printer in YaST will help, as the system
won’t have any ‘preconceived notions’.

You may use the ‘For rpm users’ instructions to install the drivers.

openSuSE does not enable SELinux (by default), so you may skip that step.

You’ll want to configure the printer using the CUPS interface
(http://localhost:631) once it’s installed.

=============================

You may wish to delete all instances of your printer (CUPS and YaST) and
start anew. I’ve had issues with USB connected printers not communicating
myself.

I’ve found that deleting all the instances of the offending printer, then
unplugging the usb cable, and plugging it back in (with printer ON), causes
it to be redetected. I installed my printer four times before I figured
this out! Seems the very first detection wasn’t exactly right… whereas
the ‘unplug/replug with printer on’ created the proper usb links and
configuring printer to that (new) connection allowed it to work.

{Smile} Of course, your experiences may differ…

But I hope this helps, and you can get your printer working.

Loni


L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com

Sooooo… i deleted my printers in cups and yast, unhooked it, rehooked it up and did “find new printers”

…it found the brother mfc and added it.

Ive already rpmmed the lpr and cups drivers in terminal, but I did it again and it said they were both already installed.

When I test print nothing happens with the printer and the print job just says “stopped” in cups.

also, cups is by default highlighting the mfc 4000/4500/5500 driver…can I assume this driver is sufficient or could this be the problem?

I delted the printer in yast, but it of course reappeared when i plugged it back in. Even after installing the drivers from brother the 210c drivers dont show up anywhere, not in cups homepage or in yast…but the 4000/4500/5500 do…so maybe theyre the equivalent?

either way…suse is seeing the printer but the jobs arent getting there…

hmm…

thisredbox wrote:

>
> Sooooo… i deleted my printers in cups and yast, unhooked it, rehooked
> it up and did “find new printers”
>
> …it found the brother mfc and added it.
>
> Ive already rpmmed the lpr and cups drivers in terminal, but I did it
> again and it said they were both already installed.
>
> When I test print nothing happens with the printer and the print job
> just says “stopped” in cups.
>
> also, cups is by default highlighting the mfc 4000/4500/5500
> driver…can I assume this driver is sufficient or could this be the
> problem?
>
> I delted the printer in yast, but it of course reappeared when i
> plugged it back in. Even after installing the drivers from brother the
> 210c drivers dont show up anywhere, not in cups homepage or in
> yast…but the 4000/4500/5500 do…so maybe theyre the equivalent?
>
> either way…suse is seeing the printer but the jobs arent getting
> there…
>
> hmm…
>
>

Have you tried to ‘unstopped’ the printer in CUPS?

you can either change this from the cups webpage (http://localhost:631), or
from a terminal:

cupsenable printername

substitute your printername as appropriate for ‘printername’

Loni


L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com

The printer isnt stopped, its green.

…when i try to print a test page the “state” of the test page says “stopped.”

thisredbox wrote:

>
> The printer isnt stopped, its green.
>
> …when i try to print a test page the “state” of the test page says
> “stopped.”
>
>

Hmmm, that’s a new one.

I’ll add that to my list of things to tinker with. Something might come to
me in the middle of the night.

Loni


L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com

L R Nix wrote:

> thisredbox wrote:
>
>>
>> The printer isnt stopped, its green.
>>
>> …when i try to print a test page the “state” of the test page says
>> “stopped.”
>>
>>
>
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thisredbox;

Look here for instructions on installing the Brother drivers. It looks to me
that 210C uses different drivers to the ones listed above.

http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html

I installed a MFC-7820C on 10.2 using the Brother instruction & drivers, it went
smooth as silk. If I recall the Brother rpm does not install the cups wrapper
into the Brother folder, thus it is listed separately in CUPS.

PS. I checked what they had for the 210C and it looks like it defaults to USB
so if it’s not on a USB port that could also be your problem,

(My original reply seems lost in cyber space, this was originally sent some time
ago)

P. V.
Only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

Swerdna provided a very useful summary on a Brother printer;HowTo Install a Brother Laser Printer HL-2040 in Suse 10.x + User Notes

all one can suggest is rechecking you first got the lpr file from here:
Licence Agreement

and installed it first; and then the cups from here: Licence Agreement

seemingly in that order

yeah i got the drivers from the brother site…

…i found that if i change the device url

from:
“usb://Brother/MFC-210C”

to:
“usb:/dev/usb/lp0” or 1 or whatever number

the test print says “processing since
Wed 13 Aug 2008 01:28:17 AM EDT”

…but with the same result of noting actually happening…just a different message and the printer turns from green to yellow.

thisredbox wrote:

>
> yeah i got the drivers from the brother site…
>
> …i found that if i change the device url
>
> from:
> “usb://Brother/MFC-210C”
>
> to:
> “usb:/dev/usb/lp0” or 1 or whatever number
>
> the test print says “processing since
> Wed 13 Aug 2008 01:28:17 AM EDT”
>
> …but with the same result of noting actually happening…just a
> different message and the printer turns from green to yellow.
>
>
Just what driver( actually it’s just a ppd) are you now using? Did you scroll
down, in CUPS, to find MFC-210C? Don’t look under Brother. To make sure every
thing is OK look in

/usr/share/cups/model

and you should see MFC210C.pdd ( or something similar). In a previous post you
mentions MFC4000/etc and I do not think that is correct.

P. V.
Only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

GOT IT!

so…SOMEHOW…i downloaded the (im guessing) fax cups wrapper…(DOH!!:?)

so i went back in got the right wrapper…and had noticed through readings that i needed to move “brlpdwrapper” from /usr/lib/cups/filter/ to /usr/lib64/cups/filter/…since im in 64bit.

so…oops:?

thank for all the help guys, at least this was a learning process.

its printing now…didnt look as high quality as in windows but i guess i can play around with it.

thanks again! :slight_smile:

yay! got it…

so…SOMEHOW…i downloaded the (im guessing) fax cups wrapper…(DOH!!:?)

so i went back in got the right wrapper…and had noticed through readings that i needed to move “brlpdwrapper” from /usr/lib/cups/filter/ to /usr/lib64/cups/filter/…since im in 64bit.

so…oops:?

thank for all the help guys, at least this was a learning process.

its printing now…didnt look as high quality as in windows but i guess i can play around with it.

thanks again! :slight_smile: