Powerline internet

Hello, maybe someone can help me with this issue. I am trying to connect to the internet via powerline but opensuse doesn’t recognize this type of wired connection. Normally my network card is no problem because when I run windows and I go via powerline there is no problem.
Is there maybe some driver that should be installed?
Any help is welcome.

Thx
Tony

I would not think that the type of media would matter a modem should be a modem.

What exact hardware are you using?

Is this of any help :

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
0a:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller
0a:03.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCIxx12 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
0a:03.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
0a:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection (rev 02)

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So, this should be the one we’re talking about? Then show output of

/sbin/lspci -s 0a:08.0 -nnk

This should show whether the driver is loaded or not.

Next, also please output of


cat /etc/resolv.conf
ip addr

Well here is the output of the following commands.

/sbin/lspci -s 0a:08.0 -nnk


0a:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection [8086:1092] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device [104d:81ef]
    Kernel driver in use: e100

cat /etc/resolv.conf


### /etc/resolv.conf file autogenerated by netconfig!
#
# Before you change this file manually, consider to define the
# static DNS configuration using the following variables in the
# /etc/sysconfig/network/config file:
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SEARCHLIST
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SERVERS
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_FORWARDER
# or disable DNS configuration updates via netconfig by setting:
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY=''
#
# See also the netconfig(8) manual page and other documentation.
#
# Note: Manual change of this file disables netconfig too, but
# may get lost when this file contains comments or empty lines
# only, the netconfig settings are same with settings in this
# file and in case of a "netconfig update -f" call.
#
### Please remove (at least) this line when you modify the file!
search home site
nameserver 195.130.130.132
nameserver 195.130.131.132

ip addr


1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:13:a9:47:f0:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:18:de:0b:37:b6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.142/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global wlan0
    inet6 fe80::218:deff:fe0b:37b6/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

Hi topaul,

I am not exactly sure how powerline works i.e. is connecting to your PC. AFAIK your network card is a “normal” ethernet card, right? So are you connecting to a router that links your LAN to the internet or does it make a direct connection to the internet? (Sorry if that is a stupid question.)

How do you know you can not connect to the internet?
If you have a router / LAN can you ping it or anything else in your LAN?
Probably your problem is not exactly related to the powerline internet but your network card just needs a proper configuration?

The output of

[FONT=courier new]ifconfig and route

may give some clue. If not, we might need to know your openSUSE version, desktop manager, how did you install? (e.g. with 12.3) a reboot after first install is necessary. Did you configure the network adapter with YaST or network manager?

rds

kasi

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When I connect with an UTP cable via the network port on the pc and a port somewhere in our house which is wired to the modem there is no problem. When I disconnect my cable from the pc it automatically connects to the internet via the wireless and that’s also no problem. But when I want to use the powerline, i.e. the network goes via the electric cables in the house, I need to put some box on the electric socket and on this box I can connect my UTP cable but then my pc doesn’t recognize the connection. I think it says something like: some of the cables is unplugged so it can’t connect to the internet.
But when I run windows xp and I connect via my powerline there is no problem, so this means my network card is able to connect via powerline and under windows I didn’t have to install a special driver.

  1. Can you you tell us make and model of this powerline network device?
  2. Do you get a link light when you connect your ethernet cable?
  3. Have you tried having both powerline devices connected side by side or in the same room?
  4. Have you read the manufacturer documentation concerning connectivity? They usually have fault finding advice or FAQ…

Here is the output of ifconfig


eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:A9:47:F0:BC  
          inet6 addr: fe80::213:a9ff:fe47:f0bc/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:60 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:16044 (15.6 Kb)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:4377 (4.2 Kb)  TX bytes:4377 (4.2 Kb)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:DE:0B:37:B6  
          inet addr:192.168.0.142  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::218:deff:fe0b:37b6/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:14867 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:8871 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:21295065 (20.3 Mb)  TX bytes:967514 (944.8 Kb)

and route


Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
default         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan0



and here are all the outputs while I tried to connect via the powerline:

/sbin/lspci -s 0a:08.0 -nnk (powerline)


0a:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection [8086:1092] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device [104d:81ef]
    Kernel driver in use: e100

cat /etc/resolv.conf (powerline)


### /etc/resolv.conf file autogenerated by netconfig!
#
# Before you change this file manually, consider to define the
# static DNS configuration using the following variables in the
# /etc/sysconfig/network/config file:
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SEARCHLIST
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SERVERS
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_FORWARDER
# or disable DNS configuration updates via netconfig by setting:
#     NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY=''
#
# See also the netconfig(8) manual page and other documentation.
#
# Note: Manual change of this file disables netconfig too, but
# may get lost when this file contains comments or empty lines
# only, the netconfig settings are same with settings in this
# file and in case of a "netconfig update -f" call.
#
### Please remove (at least) this line when you modify the file!
search site

ip addr (powerline)


1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:13:a9:47:f0:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet6 fe80::213:a9ff:fe47:f0bc/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:18:de:0b:37:b6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

ifconfig (powerline)


eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:A9:47:F0:BC  
          inet6 addr: fe80::213:a9ff:fe47:f0bc/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:124 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:33472 (32.6 Kb)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:4377 (4.2 Kb)  TX bytes:4377 (4.2 Kb)

route (powerline)


Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface

"1. Can you you tell us make and model of this powerline network device? "

      What do you exactly mean with this?

“2. Do you get a link light when you connect your ethernet cable?”

      All the red lights turn green but I think normally one or two should start blinking

“3. Have you tried having both powerline devices connected side by side or in the same room?”

      Yes, I'm always in the same room and I tried it side by side.

“4. Have you read the manufacturer documentation concerning connectivity? They usually have fault finding advice or FAQ…”

      Yes I have read the docs but they don't talk about linux and because it works with windows xp I think the network is OK

greetz,
Tony

"1. Can you you tell us make and model of this powerline network device? "

      What do you exactly mean with this?

It was a simple question. I’d like to know the particular manufacturer poweline hardware details.

“2. Do you get a link light when you connect your ethernet cable?”

      All the red lights turn green but I think normally one or two should start blinking

Okay, well that suggests ethernet connectivity at least.

“3. Have you tried having both powerline devices connected side by side or in the same room?”

      Yes, I'm always in the same room and I tried it side by side.

Okay.

Well, since you’re not getting an IP address (as would be expected), you may need to check your eth0 configuration. Are you using network manager, or are you configuring via YaST (with traditional ifup)? Configured to use dynamic address? If the answers to these questions are not clear to you, then please review the following

openSUSE 12.3: Chapter 13. Basic Networking

openSUSE 12.3: Chapter 13. Basic Networking

i’ve had success running both netgear and wd brand powerline network adapters with opensuse (and other distros and operating systems) without a problem.
could the wiring in your house be an issue? (try setting things up in the same room with different outlets and see if that works, then if that works try a combination of other rooms)

The OP claims the identical setup works when laptop is using windows, so I don’t think this is the issue. Of course, difficult to diagnose when not in front of the hardware. It does appear that it is a configuration issue with the laptop NIC.

ah ok… wish i could help :frowning: (nic is network interface card? so it may be a hardware problem?)

No, I think it is a configuration issue. The OP has not yet told us if they use network manager or ‘traditional ifup’ to control the network interface.

Agreed. IMHO we can’t do much unless the OP tells us a bit more.

On 2013-10-20 08:36, deano ferrari wrote:

> No, I think it is a configuration issue. The OP has not yet told us if
> they use network manager or ‘traditional ifup’ to control the network
> interface.

Could this type of setup need some special driver?
In that case it would work in Windows and not in Linux.
Or is it transparent :-?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On 2013-10-18 23:26, topaul wrote:
>
> Here is the output of ifconfig
>
>
>
> Code:
> --------------------
>
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:A9:47:F0:BC
> inet6 addr: fe80::213:a9ff:fe47:f0bc/64 Scope:Link
> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:60 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 <=======
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:16044 (15.6 Kb)

> --------------------

Look there… there is no hardware connectivity. :-?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

OK, got it up and running now. The problem was that it were new powerline adapters and I had to register them in the powerline network. I found a tool on the site of the manufacturer and I installed it on my windows desktop and added the 2 new adapters with the password that’s on the back of the adapter and now they can all communicate in the network.
Thanks all for the help and the tips.
And now waiting for the next opensuse release hopefully I don’t have problems with my additional software like eclipse and JDev and my system vars when upgrading.

greetz and thx,
Tony

Thanks for the update.