Milestone 1 was released today (in case you missed the announcement)
Two failed install attempts. Success on the third try. I’ll post details in a followup. This opening post is just to start the thread.
There seems to be a problem with crypto, when installing from the DVD image (actual install attempt used a USB, but that is probably not relevant).
First attempt: On my laptop, using existing partitions (luks encrypted “/home” and swap).
The installer asked for the key. And then it hung. I waited ten minutes before a forced power-off.
Second attempt: A repeat of the first attempt (as a double check). Same results.
Third attempt: On a desktop. Existing partitions were not encrypted, but I configured encrypted swap during the partitioner setup. Installation proceeded normally through the software selection. At the final install step it immediately hung. I waited 10 minutes, with nothing happening, before I forced a power-off. A later check showed that nothing had been written to disk.
Fourth attempt: This time, I skipped the crypto, and the install completed normally.
I’ll file bug reports for the first and third attempts, and post the bug numbers back here. My guess is that bother are due to some problem in the crypto setup on the DVD image, most likely the same problem. But I will post as two separate bugs with cross-references between them.
Problem with the first attempt reported as Bug 788882
Problem with the third attempt reported as Bug 788884
I installed 12.3 M1 x86_64 in a VirtualBox VM using the KDE Live CD. The setup
is vanilla - 3 partitions (/ and /home with ext4) and swap. I installed from the
running Live CD, not from the boot menu.
The only configuration problem I faced is that grub2 chose a resolution of
640x480 for my screen. To overcome that, I changed the line in /etc/default/grub
that says
GRUB_GFXMODE=auto
to
GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768x32
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
I then wrote the updates to the configuration with
sudo /usr/sbin/grub2-mkconfig /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
Now I have the 1024x768 resolution that I wanted.
After a successful install (without crypto), I then tried to use “cryptsetup” at the command line. It hangs.
It seems that “cryptsetup” is broken in M1. Don’t even try to install M1 if you are doing anything that requires “cryptsetup”.
Bug report for 788882 has been updated.
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:26:05 GMT
nrickert <nrickert@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> There seems to be a problem with crypto, when installing from the DVD
> image (actual install attempt used a USB, but that is probably not
> relevant).
Might be relevant for another reason. I’ve tried burning to a DVD but
the image (X64) is too big. Had to install and use Brasero to get a
meaningful diagnostic as K3B simply told me to get an empty DVD.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Did a fresh installation from the Live CD on a spare disk (desktop PC). After the process finished and all the extra rpm’s were downloaded and installed, couldn’t do a restart - it stopped somewhere in the shutdown green screen sequence. A hard reset worked ok and it’s been fine since.
D/L and burned DVD-x86 for 12.3M1. Note: md5sum on website is incorrect, but using “media check” on DVD indicates all sums are OK.
My procedure was to install a minimal-X to a real partition (not a VM) for everything, no separate Home partition, and using exising swap in a multi-boot configuration. From that point, to add the Community KDE3 repo and add a base install of KDE3.
After base install of minimal-X (Icewm), installation procedure had not set up my rtl8111e network card (cat 5e) at all, so no network access. The driver was there, the card identified, but no setup had been done by the install process that I had selected “auto config” for. Easy to fix, but an omission nevertheless. That was the only problem at that point.
KDE3 install went well, with only a couple of dependency issues. I suppose this was because the repo added was 12.2’s, rather than factory. IIR, kdebase3 coughed on “nothing provides liblLmlmf.so.6”, and kdebase3-SUSE coughed on librpm.so.2.
Similarly, adding the Packman repo add’s 12.2’s version, so there were some “nothing provides” there too, notably libudev.so.0 for vlc-noX-2.03… Easily remedied.
After the base + KDE3 install, the configuration hangs every time in its final throes when using KDE3’s shutdown option. I have had this on occasional installs of 12.2 also, and my solution has always been to switch back to sysvinit … but it appears this will not be a choice in 12.3 and onwards. Any suggestions? It reboots fine, though.
Apart from that, everything works fine. VLC (music MP3s and AVI/MP4’s, etc), inserting USB flash dives, DVDs, CDs, my Epson 3490 scanner (using proprietary iScan software), Deluge bit torrent, KDE3PIM e-mail, and whatnot. Wine works well with my legacy (XP) Solitaire and Freecell and is really much, much faster to load! The new Intel video driver for my integrated HD3000 on z68chipset install works perfectly.
A very excellent M1, by far the best of any previous M1’s I have tested. Congrats, Devs.
Installed MS 1 in VirtualBox for testing and so far don’t see any problems other than the resolution mentioned above. I’ll try to test it a bit more this weekend.
I’m glad to see the systemd NFS on boot problem is resolved. This really needs to be pushed back to 12.2. I’m tired of manually mounting after boot, and openSUSE is useless on my media center because of it.
Another thing needed is a local package cache system of some sort, and I don’t mean some lame hack using Squid. I mean an actual way to cache, similar to what’s available with Debian based systems. Right now I have six systems, including two virtual systems for testing, each of which download virtually the same files during updates. If/when I convert my home server and the two virtual servers on it from Debian to openSUSE, that will bring the total up to nine. This could easily add up to a gig or two per month, or more when updating the kernel and KDE in the same month. This is quite a bit for those of us on a data cap.
We’re also going to need some good documentation on converting over our init.d scripts to systemd. I have a few custom ones on my servers that I’ll need to convert.
12.2 was my introduction to openSUSE and so far I’m really enjoying it. The NFS on boot problem almost made me go back to Kubuntu, but I’ll stick it out for a while longer and see how it goes.
Keep up the good work.
Would it do as a primer? Wunschkonzert, Ponyhof und Abenteuerspielplatz If you have specific questions I could try to answer or you may ask on systemd-devel list.
Mixed results for me. I installed from a Live KDE CD but suffered from a 45 second screen freezing just after kde loads. It is the same when I tried up-grading to kde 4.9.2 (from MS 0 which came with kde 4.9.1). Tried up-grading to KDE 4.9.3 but still the same screen freezing. Keeping MS 1 and rolling KDE back to 4.9.1 works fine - so it must be a KDE issue rather than a MS 1 problem.
Ref my post in #8.
The “hanging on shutdown” is definitely a KDE3 problem/regression, rather than 12.3M1. More specifically, it’s using the default of “/sbin/halt” in the [Shutdown] section of “/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc”, rather than “/sbin/halt -p”. We’ve had this before.
So the remaining issue, from my usage, is not auto-configuring the on-board rtl8111e network adapter, as previous versions always have.
Thank you arvidjaar. I need to take a deeper look at the complete series, but a quick skim through a couple of the installments leads me to believe switching over to systemd is going to be quite the learning experience. I may keep my servers on Debian for a while, until I get the time to better understand systemd.
I tried to install os 12.3 M1 on my old laptop. Because I use to use encrypted /home partitions there, I am suffering from the cryptsetup bug too.
With a not encrypted /home partition the installation works. Until now I noticed only a few problems with the configured software repositories (bug #789156).
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:15:30 GMT
Graham P Davis <cloddy@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> I’ve tried burning to a DVD but
> the image (X64) is too big. Had to install and use Brasero to get a
> meaningful diagnostic as K3B simply told me to get an empty DVD.
The md5sum and sha1sum also do not match that for the image. I’ve
downloaded via metalink and later direct from a mirror but those images
match each other and so both are equally faulty.
Raised as bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789865
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
I checked the sha256sum after my downloads, and they matched. I did not try the md5 or sha1 checks.
I have since found the pgp signatures, which also match.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:16:03 GMT
nrickert <nrickert@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> Cloddy;2504557 Wrote:
> > The md5sum and sha1sum also do not match that for the image.
>
> I checked the sha256sum after my downloads, and they matched. I did
> not try the md5 or sha1 checks.
>
> I have since found the pgp signatures, which also match.
>
An earlier report via mail-list regarding this DVD-iso also found that
gpg matched when sha1sum didn’t.
I’ve burnt it to a flash-drive and installed from that OK. Still prefer
installing from DVD on this machine; I had to whip the flash-drive
out before the first reboot else it got stuck in a loop and wouldn’t
complete the install. No such trouble on the other machine I tried as
the BIOS was more forgiving.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
It’s very well possible to perform the DVD install from a 8GB USB stick. Run isohybrid on the downloaded DVD iso before writing it to the USB Device.
I have one computer which does that. It was annoying until I realized what was going on.
I actually prefer to install from the USB.
I will add that the installed M1 seems to be pretty good, except that I am unable to switch to using encrypted swap. The crypto problems mentioned in earlier posts to this thread are the only ones that I have run into.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:16:05 GMT
Knurpht <Knurpht@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> It’s very well possible to perform the DVD install from a 8GB USB
> stick. Run isohybrid on the downloaded DVD iso before writing it to
> the USB Device.
>
>
I installed from USB stick [or pen or thumb or whatever] on both
machines having copied the image to the drive using Imagewriter.
Trouble is that the Bios on one machine makes it trickier than
installing from DVD. Just as a twist, even if the DVD image was the
correct size, the other machine probably would not boot it correctly due
to UEFI.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306