Please guide me on installation

Dear all,

I’m new to linux, I’m ready to install Open suse 11.1 on my HP Presario notebook.

In fact, I abort installation awhile ago cos I was too afraid I might screw up the process especially the partition.

I need someone to guide me cos I too used on Windows partition with all the C, D drive thingy.

I was stun to see 0 hd etc when it shown on custom partition.

I’m on Vista Home Basic, AMD Turion64x2 and original ship with a 120GB HDD and partition to C & D Drive.

C: avail disk space is 55.3GB
D: avail disk space is 2.3GB (is a recovery solution by HP so I would’nt touch it)

Any method to teach me install safely onto my current notebook that won’t corrupt the C and D drive?

1)Can someone suggest how do i to custom-partition for Open Suse disk space for 10GB only for test?

2)Is it dual-boot with selection between Windows and open-suse each time i power on my notebook when installation done? or do i need to indicate some command-line?

3)Once Open-suse install on my notebook, is it easy to uninstall without any command line? Pls advise … is important cos I uninstall ubuntu on my old dell and whole notebook crashed.

Tks

Have a read NEWBIES - Suse-11.1 Pre-installation – PLEASE READ - openSUSE Forums

Andy

I’m stuck when at point 3. How to check the MD5SUM from Windows:

One completely free, MS-Windows application for running the md5 checksum on a number of different operating systems, is here on sourceforge.net: md5deep

Another gui md5 checker for MS-Windows 95/98/NT (it works in Xp as well even though it doesn’t say so). The file is md5.exe (248kB) and can be downloaded from MD5 GUI for Windows. It’s under the gpl licence and you can download the source if you want.

How do i use MD5 GUI for Windows

tks

tks,

http://www.toast442.org/md5/

Looks like you simply download and click it.

Uwe

Yes.
I downloaded. I save and run… a windows pop-up.
I click ‘ok’ and the program close and nothing happen

> 3)Once Open-suse install on my notebook, is it easy to uninstall
> without any command line? Pls advise … is important cos I uninstall
> ubuntu on my old dell and whole notebook crashed.

If you want to “try” openSUSE I’d suggest you download and run the
“Live CD” version. Nothing to install, it can’t/won’t touch your hard
drive and there is NO chance you will screw up your existing system
(as long as you do not click on the Install icon).

Thanks. But who can explain on the checksum? I don’t know to use the program?

From memory you can forget the third party md5 checksum process. After SuSE loads the install environment you get the choice to <Check Installation Media> Use this to check the integrity of you DVD or .iso.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
I have always burnt my .iso’s with k3b (and why wouldn’t you) with the check data after burn enabled.

DallasDrifter has an excellent point. Grab the live CD for Gnome or KDE (DVD) and check it out. If you like what you see then post back outlining your HDD partitions and someone here or here http://saltyp.homelinux.org:8080 will walk you through the partition setup.

Great. I still need last help regarding the ‘custome-partition’.
Can some one please advise after reading this below:

I’m on Vista Home Basic, AMD Turion64x2 and original ship with a 120GB HDD and partition to C & D Drive.

C: avail disk space is 55.3GB
D: avail disk space is 2.3GB (is a recovery solution by HP so I would’nt touch it)

Any method to teach me install safely onto my current notebook that won’t corrupt the C and D drive?

Thanks.

Hi,

I still waiting for help for advise regarding the Custom-partition?
Yest, I can’t wait and I try 2nd attempt but fail saying error when I use yast default(auto) partition setting

This is the first time I have read your post so let me check I have what you want to do ok?

You want to install openSUSE on your hard drive while keeping windows as well? And you want to limit openSUSE to 10gb?

That is not a problem and the openSUSE installer disk will happily do that for you.

Make sure you back up any important data before making changes to your hard drive.
Ensure you defrag windows before installing openSUSE.

During the install process openSUSE will suggest a partition arrangement. If you want to change that (i.e. you only want openSUSE to have 10gb) you can use the guided partitioner option to make changes to the partition sizes. Note that openSUSE will want partitions for /, /home, and /swap. The /swap partition should be about double your RAM. The / partition will need to be at least 5gb in my experience.

I’m not sure how you go back to windows if you don’t want openSUSE (why would you?) but I’m sure that if windows software can’t do it for you there will be a Linux way to do that.

Sure. :slight_smile:

Yes. Is 10GB enough? maybe 20gb.

My HP Presario come with built-in hard-disk of 120GB IDE, I request manufacturer to partition for when I bought it.

So the setting is C: 100GB (now disk space left 55.7GB), D: 20GB (but now left with 7GB).
D drive is my HP-recovery original , anything happen I just restore to original factory setting.
So i guess I dont need to back up, my important data all save into external enclosure USB.

Done. I defrag C: only, result from windows. ‘not neccessary defrag’

My Ram is 2GB (already Max-up. is a DDR 2 pc 667).
/ = is 20GB i.e for opensuse??
/swap = 4096/swap?

what should i do for /= AND /home?

Tks for your help

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Hi, this is Open-suse 11.1 auto configure the partition.
yesterday I just ‘Next’ but fail.

Should I click Create or Edit partition?

What is LVM for?

Sigh… really got no idea how to handle this.

Delay for many days still cant get myself setup this OS

From memory you can forget the third party md5 checksum process. After SuSE loads the install environment you get the choice to <Check Installation Media> Use this to check the integrity of you DVD or .iso.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.  I have always burnt my .iso's with k3b (and why wouldn't you) with the check data after burn enabled.

md5sum verifies the .iso. Media check individually verifies compressed installation images. Burner validation checks tracks against source iso. (OP cannot use k3b, linux is not installed yet.)

Hi, this is Open-suse 11.1 auto configure the partition.
yesterday I just ‘Next’ but fail.

The suggested partitioning indicates there is something we are not seeing yet. Apparently there is already an “extended primary” partition on the machine, and already a “logical” partition created inside of it (because the suggestions start with sda6 - that means there is an sda5 somewhere). So we should look at the partition table before doing anything more.

Please boot from the DVD except choose “Rescue System”. At the prompt, login as “root”. Then do this, write it down, and post it back here:

fdisk -lu

If you cannot do this, then boot into Windows and find Computer Management, then Disk Management. There will be a table listing of the partitions and also a graphical picture. Create a screenshot of both and post those to imageshack.

When you tried to use the install suggested partitioning and you did Next and then it failed - did you get an error message of any kind?

Finally, I suggest you consider to use EasyBCD to manage the boot on your Vista machine, instead of grub. You can get it here Download EasyBCD 1.7.2 - NeoSmart Technologies. Read the documentation - it is very easy to use. Note: If you choose to do this, you will need to manually tell openSUSE where to install grub (in the openSUSE partition, and not the MBR). We can give you instructions for how to do that. First, at the front of the installation, there is an option for “Automatic Configuration”; switch that off.

I have a variant on the OP’s original question.

I have an HP tablet with Vista Business installed. I want to install openSuSE as a dual boot. After defragging Vista, I’ve got 19.3 GB of used space and 36.5 GB of free space. I’m guessing that since this adds up to 55.8 GB, there is probably a hidden restore partition that would bring the total to 60GB.

I ran the Vista utility to shrink its partition to free up room for a suse install and it wanted to leave just over 40GB for Vista. There was a scroller on the amount of space to leave. I don’t know how far down to scroll it. How much space does Vista really need? How much does opensuse 11.1 need? I am unlikely to install anything in the Vista partition, so I was thinking that I could go down to 25 GB leaving me 30 GB for opensuse. If suse needs less, I could take less from Vista. In either partition, my personal files are only a couple GB at most.

The size differential can be simply due to using the hardware vs OS divisor. But it can also be very important - on machines like yours there may be a hidden recovery partition and there may be yet another hidden partition which holds recovery program code. This is one reason why I usually advise using EasyBCD instead of grub - manufacturers often do strange, proprietary, undocumented things setting up those partitions.

Ordinarily Vista will not allow a shrink to less than ~50-60%. Diskpart will sometimes shrink it less than the gui. There is little documentation explaining why or the actual algorithm used. What openSUSE will use is strictly a function of how you use it. A complete install is ~4-5GB. As a ref point, my root - so excluding /home - is <15GB, and I have a heckuva lot of software. /home is where it will vary, depending. For Vista, you can check MS recommended minimums; IIRC for your version it’s ~20GB; but again, what will take the space is added programs and user data, so that is highly variable.

Before installing openSUSE on your tablet, do some searching in the wiki/SDB and googling. I seem to recall some quirks and/or gotchas, at least with some tablets. Might have to do with the X server, mouse, keyboard, that sort of thing.

Good luck.

How to go about it when i put the DVD? where can i type the Fdisk -lu into?

On the DVD menu there is a selection for “Rescue System”. Highlight that line and hit Enter to boot into Rescue. That will take you to a user login prompt. Type “root” and hit Enter (there is no password required in Rescue). Then at the next line do:


fdisk -lu

And the partition table will be displayed. That is what we need to see.

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Hi this is the result after i input

fdisk -lu

PS: I just switch off my notebook and power on back cos i dont know how to exit the dos alike program. :shame:

Any way to solve me prob? so many days still cant install this exciting OS

I am on my way out of town until the week-end, so I must be quick and perhaps someone else will double-check my suggestion . . .

Your partition is setup with a a regular “primary” (sda1) followed by an “extended primary” (sda3) following by a regular “primary” (sda2). The purpose of an extended is to be a container to hold logicals, because there can only be a total of 4 primaries on the machine. In other words, having logicals inside an extended gets around the 4 primary limitation. You have one logical inside the sda3 extended; it is sda5. How you got the extended sda3 in between the sda1 and sda2 primaries, I don’t know.

But you have plenty of space inside the extended, my quick calculation indicates ~44GB. I don’t know what you now have on sda5, looks like it is ~6GB. So my suggestion:

In the installation at the Partition step, go into Create Your Own for Experts (I don’t have the screens in front of me at the moment). Under Hard Disks on the left highlight the sda disk. You will see the entire table on the right. First, click on sda5, delete it and click Finish, you will go back to the table and you will see sda1, sda3, sda2. Highlight sda3. Click on Add and - this is extremely important - add a new logical (it will be the new number 5) for 2GB and for the mount point give it “swap”. Then add another logical for 10GB, and give it the mount point root (the / sign). Then add one more logical with the remaining space inside the extended, and assign to it the mount point of /home; if you want to leave some unused space, then just give /home 10GB and leave the rest unallocated for now.

This way, sda1 (your “c”) and sda2 (your “recovery”) will not be touched. Everything will be done inside of sda3, the extended. Everything you add will be logicals. Do not add another regular primary, only the logicals.

Because you are putting SuSE in a logical, you need for the grub boot loader to be installed to the MBR. It will give you an openSUSE menu with a choice to “chainload” boot Windows from there.

Good luck.