PDA with Windows Mobile 6.0 and Suse 11.1 with Gnome

Hi,
I spent more than a week trying to understand how to synchronize my PDA (Windows Mobile 6.0) with Suse 11.1 and no result.

So far I learned what is PalmOS and what is not (I’ve been trying J-pilot and Gnome Pilot)

I’ve tried with USB-cable and Bluetooth.

What I have so far:

  • SynCE (installed via YaST, with some other components)
  • Blueman just in case.

Was by default in my SUSE 11.1

  • Evolution
  • working bluetooth (Gnome Aplet + OBEX)
  • Multisync (it does see the SynCE, doesn’t see the Evolution)

So how to synchronize is one case, but first of all I need to know: how connect my PDA that SUSE will see a device for synchronization? I’ve tried Bluetooth and I can only get a paired OBEX PDA. I can send files. that’s all.

I would like to ask You for help. How to do it, step by step. We can start from scratch.

During debug we can use text-terminal mode. But after is finished I would like to have a GUI terminal.

I can promise, that if we manage to set-it up. I can describe it as a WIKI for other. Step-by-step.

Thanks

I’ve tried and also not succeeded, and come to the conclusion that it’s just not possible. So if anyone’s figured it out I’d like to know too (haven’t even succeeded in using ActiveSync through Virtualbox).
In the end, I settled for Funambol to sync via the Web which works quite well (I’m syncing with Outlook running in Virtualbox). Remember the Milk is something else I’ve tried since switching to KDE4 because of the RTM plasmoid, but that’s broken…

Look at this web page: link.

This guy had no special problems under Ubuntu. So it must be possible. We are missing some proper configuration or maybe extra software that is available in Ubuntu.

So I still believe is possible.

Mandriva used to boast “seamless” WM PDA sync, even published a video about it. If it is possible, someone ought to write a How-to.

Had a look at your link. “No special problems” is a bit of an understatement:

The biggest problem I encountered was configuring multisync properly. You see, you can only sync those items that are in identically-named categories. In other words, if you want to sync contacts that are in the “business” category on your phone with Evolution, you’ve got to have a category called “business” in Evolution.

[Edit: I have since discovered another annoyance: it appears that you can only sync one category of stuff at a time. In other words, if I want to sync all my contacts I have to go into options tell it to sync everything in my “personal” category, sync, and then go back into options and tell it to sync everything in my “business” category, etc.]

I’m not saying that it couldn’t be easier. It definitely could. As a general matter, PalmOS devices seem to be supported better in Ubuntu than Windows Mobile devices.

And, of course, whatever success he’s achieved was with Evolution in Gnome, which leaves the question of what to do in a KDE environment…

> And, of course, whatever success he’s achieved was with Evolution in
> Gnome, which leaves the question of what to do in a KDE environment…

won’t evolution run in KDE (if the Gnome basics are installed)??


palladium
Have a lot of fun…

Sure does, I use it on my machine at work (for email, and only for research purposes - the original motivation was its Exchange compatibility but Thunderbird can do the same). But I just can’t stand it, at least not in IMAP, it’s slower than treacle, you can’t reorder the folders, etc etc. I might put up with all that if I could sync all my PDA data with its calendar but I can’t. So it’s Thunderbird for me as far as email is concerned (a Ferrari compared to Evolution’s Lada), and I just don’t use any apps for calendar, tasks, and contacts on my OSS desktop because I can’t sync them with my PDA…

gminnerup wrote:
> I might put up with all that if I could sync all my PDA data with
> its calendar but I can’t.

wait! are you saying that it is possible for Evolution running on
Ubuntu can sync with M$ WinMob6 but it is not possible for Evolution
running on openSUSE and KDE??

that just makes no sense, at all…

[yes, i know Evolution is a S L O W bloated dog, but the other
poster wants to sync and might think a program that looks and moves
slowly like Outhouse is ok…]


palladium
Have a lot of fun…

Gentlemen,
How to run it under KDE we can try to debug later on.

First let’s get it work is SUSE with any user interface at all.

This guy (from Ubuntu) had some inconvenience, he couldn’t get the full functionality. But he was able to establish a connection.

Should we try to “extract” method from Ubuntu?

I’d love to know how this works too. I tried a few times and eventually gave up after wasting many many hours. One thing you need to make sure of is that the SUSE firewall is not blocking the connection. I found that simply disabling it from yast and trying agin would not work. I had to disable it and then reboot, only then would my PDA connect with SUSE. I still couldn’t get it to sync though.

Well, all we have so far is someone blogging that he managed to sync contacts, with some difficulty. Nothing about syncing calendar events or tasks…

my best advice would be to take your pick:

  1. buy a Mobile 6.0 driven PDA and spend LOTs of time trying to work
    around all the roadblocks programmed in to force folks to use it only
    with Genuine M$ Software, or

  2. buy an open source PDA known to work and play well with Mac, Linux,
    BeOS, BSD and Wind0z…


palladium
Have a lot of fun…

Good advice but too late… WM seemed a good idea at the time when running Windows…

gminnerup wrote:
> Good advice but too late… WM seemed a good idea at the time when
> running Windows…

so, the choice becomes:

  1. let the trap keep you locked in (because it is easier, even if MUCH
    more costly), or

  2. use your PDA as good as you can without putting any more money into
    the Ultimate Redmond Trap Maker, while planning your next purchases…

see, we can all vote with our pocketbook…and, the more that do the
more likely the Ultimate Revenue Stream Corporation will see fit to
allow their stuff to work and play well with our stuff…


palladium
Have a lot of fun…

You haven’t read my earlier messages. I’m no longer “trapped in”, I use Funambol to sync with Outlook running in Virtualbox. Once the KDE4 Remember the Milk plasmoid is working again, I’ll probably be able to ditch Outlook Calendar altogether with a combination of RTM and Google Calendar.
I certainly don’t boot Vista any more to sync my PDA…

gminnerup wrote:
> You haven’t read my earlier messages.

my options were generic (for those who come here with the same problem
and follow the thread while still locked in…get’em to think) ok? :wink:


palladium
Have a lot of fun…

I wish it were that simple. I don’t know of any device that syncs properly with KDE’s PIM suite, Evolution or Thunderbird / Lightning, I’m talking about syncing e-mails, calendar, contacts, tasks and notes. If one exists then please let me know as I’m just beginning to look for a new device.

I don’t want to sync through the cloud so any solution that involves using google calendar or funambol as a conduit is not suitable.

I’m hoping the Nokia N900 with Maemo is going to provide a solution as that is as close to a Linux desktop on a phone that you can get at the moment. :slight_smile:

I think this has been a big weakness with Linux in general not being able to provide an efficient and reliable way of syncing PDA’s / smartphones with it the 3 main PIMs in use.

> I’m talking about syncing e-mails, calendar, contacts, tasks and
> notes. If one exists then please let me know as I’m just beginning
> to look for a new device.

understand your point but add:

when i talk to the the President on the TV, he doesn’t answer me; i
can’t get my refrigerator to dry my clothes properly; my car can’t
carry as much sand as my truck; and every time i try to unscrew a bolt
with a hammer it goes all sour…

but, the day i can do all of those things i will expect to find a
Micro$oft powered PDA which will (out of the box) sync email,
calendar, contacts, tasks and notes with the Sony-Apple Playstation
running Linux embedded in my China made limo…


palladium
Have a lot of fun…

It will probably need a kernel update.

or a palladium chipset :wink: