I have installed openSUSE 12.2 using a KDE Live CD on my machine. I then removed all repos and added the Tumbleweed ones, run ‘zypper dup’ and everything works fine (actually perfeect). I then added the factory reposirory for subpixel hinting and still everything warks like a charm. All this happened some time ago, and I’ve been following all updates ever since.
So I now go to YaST > Software Management > Patterns (view), and I notice that KDE Desktop Enviroment and KDE Base System are not checked. Off course, if I click on them (the text not the checkbox) I can see that most of the packages are installed, which is as expected since I have a nice KDE desktop working. My question is, why is the check gone from those two patterns ?
I think these patterns are simply based on the standard distribution and not on using Tumbleweed. Further, I can’t recommend that you try to fix something that is not broken. Patterns can work great when you add them and not so much when you try to make them gone. But in a case where they are gone due to switching to Tumbleweed, I am not so sure what you will have if you turn them back on. So, enjoy your very fine working system, and hope that the time it keeps working will be extra long. lol!
Ok so what was actually missing from KDE Base was kwrite which I had myself removed and replaced with kate, and a couple more packages, and same thing for KDE Desktop. I pulled them in, everything is still working pretty. I know noticed I have quite a few packages from Gnome Base. Packages like Mozilla Firefox and pulseaudio, which are not Gnome specific, plus a few more. Are they trully needed? For example I have disabled pusleaudio, so I’m not sure I need those (five in total) pulseaudio packages. Here follows the output from ‘zypper pattern-info gnome_basis’
Please, when you as a newby (you said youself I think) feel fit for some reason to go for Tumbleweed, then at least ask your questions in the Tumbleweed subforum.
Ok, though I think that the questions are mostly related with Software Manager and the patters option. I mentioned Tumbleweed in the process of explaining what I have done with my repos and packages, and I did that mentioning trying to provide as much information I thought was relevant, regardless of it actually being relevant or not afterall.
Please free to move my thread into the Tumbleweed forum if you see fit.
We like it very much when you tell as much as possible. But as most people here do not use Tumbleweed and thus are unsure what to answer when somebody does, we have a special subforum for those that know more.
I for myself e.g. would not know if an answer from me on your question would be worthless because you use Tumbleweed.
I will move the thread. Please refrain from posting until this is complete.
Nothing to worry about. If you decide to use packages from other than the distribution repos, it can happen that the empty “patterns-openSUSE…” packages get uninstalled, since you “break” the original pattern. But, like said, these are empty packages, i.e. they do not contain parts of KDE, they just trigger the install of all packages belonging to the pattern.
Ok then, thanks for your answers! I’ll try to resist removing packages I see in the Gnome patters, since if I start, I’ll probably stop only when I break my system