which may be long enough for all who google in to see the problem
which this thread solves, or maybe not…
certainly, the thread has no value without the images…so, maybe the
thread should be auto-deleted with the images… or . . . ??
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
On 03/21/2011 10:09 AM, DenverD wrote:
> auto-deleted with the images… or . . . ??
or http://paste.opensuse.org/ should default to delete after
never…(which looks to be a very minor html code change)
and (if possible) that should not be changeable…
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
But isn’t this the same for log files?
If someone starts a thread with an error log on paste.opensuse.org it will become useless if the file expires,
since you won’t be able to see if it’s the same error message as you might get.
AFAIK paste.opensuse.org supports image to be kept for ever.
And I don’t think setting Never as default is such a good idea.
On 03/21/2011 04:36 PM, Edward Iii wrote:
>
> But isn’t this the same for log files?
sure…it is the same for anything put there to understand the problem
(or the solution–that is, some may want to paste bash scripts in as a
solution)
>
> And I don’t think setting Never as default is such a good idea.
the current default is to delete the paste in one week…
using the assumption that at least one person will accidentally
overlook the chance to change the default to something longer, would
you rather the paste to be deleted in one week, or never?
how about, three years, would that be a better default than either one
week or never?
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
I agree on that, one week is very short, three years sound quite good.
Imagine that someone overlooks this option and the default was set to Never and he’s unable to change that.
Now he realizes that the output of the command he posted contained more information than he wanted. (username, IP-address, etc…).
So he wants to change/remove the paste.
It just seems too restrictive to me to be unable to remove/change a past for ever.
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:36:01 +0000, Edward Iii wrote:
> Hello DenverD,
>
> DenverD Wrote:
>> the current default is to delete the paste in one week…
>>
>> using the assumption that at least one person will accidentally
>> overlook the chance to change the default to something longer, would
>> you rather the paste to be deleted in one week, or never?
>>
>> how about, three years, would that be a better default than either one
>> week or never?
> I agree on that, one week is very short, three years sound quite good.
>
> Imagine that someone overlooks this option and the default was set to
> Never and he’s unable to change that. Now he realizes that the output of
> the command he posted contained more information than he wanted.
> (username, IP-address, etc…). So he wants to change/remove the paste.
>
> It just seems too restrictive to me to be unable to remove/change a past
> for ever.
You guys might want to send feedback to Michal Hrušecký, since he is (I
believe, based on the info at the bottom of the page at paste.opensuse.org) the person who set this up. This isn’t something the
forums team has any control over, so the feedback should go to Michal.
On 03/21/2011 06:36 PM, Edward Iii wrote:
>
>
> Imagine that someone overlooks this option and the default was set to
> Never and he’s unable to change that.
> Now he realizes that the output of the command he posted contained more
> information than he wanted. (username, IP-address, etc…).
> So he wants to change/remove the paste.
see, i had not thought of that–mostly because i never make mistakes!
yes you are right, there should be a way to delete any information
that should not have been pasted, before never…
OR one week…
one thing that could be done, rather quickly (but not instantly) would
be for the person who pasted and then didn’t want the paste seen to
use the ‘report’ function to let the moderators know of the problem…
then, a mod could remove the link from view or maybe better delete the
post from both the web and nntp side… (as far as i know it would not
be possible to simply edit out a link…
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
On 03/21/2011 06:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> based on the info at the bottom of the page at
> paste.opensuse.org)
ah, i hadn’t been down that far…until now…thanks…
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:09:14 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 06:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> based on the info at the bottom of the page at paste.opensuse.org)
>
> ah, i hadn’t been down that far…until now…thanks…
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:08:39 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 06:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> This isn’t something the
>> forums team has any control over, so the feedback should go to Michal.
>
> i see it hasn’t changed yet, so i wonder if anyone from the forum team
> has discussed the default setting with Michal?
Not that I’m aware of. I didn’t - since the suggestion was to give the
feedback to Michal directly, I left it in the hands of those who want to
ask him to change it.
On 04/03/2011 08:55 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Not that I’m aware of. I didn’t - since the suggestion was to give the
> feedback to Michal directly, I left it in the hands of those who want to
> ask him to change it.
does the forum team think the one week default is ok?
i’ve noticed several helpers suggest the questioner use paste.opensuse
tell to increase delete time to ‘never’…
should all answer givers be required to type the expire suggestion
each and every time? and, does each answer giver decide how long the
paste should persist?
or, just leave to the questioner to decide…or not, and leave one week ?
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:08:52 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 04/03/2011 08:55 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Not that I’m aware of. I didn’t - since the suggestion was to give the
>> feedback to Michal directly, I left it in the hands of those who want
>> to ask him to change it.
>
> does the forum team think the one week default is ok?
>
> i’ve noticed several helpers suggest the questioner use paste.opensuse
> tell to increase delete time to ‘never’…
>
> should all answer givers be required to type the expire suggestion each
> and every time? and, does each answer giver decide how long the paste
> should persist?
>
> or, just leave to the questioner to decide…or not, and leave one week
> ?
>
> if you or forum team don’t care, say so…
sigh
I’ll provide my feedback as well, but I suggest that it would also help
if people who actually use paste.opensuse.org tell the person who runs it
their opinions as well.
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:34:51 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:08:52 +0000, DenverD wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2011 08:55 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> Not that I’m aware of. I didn’t - since the suggestion was to give
>>> the feedback to Michal directly, I left it in the hands of those who
>>> want to ask him to change it.
>>
>> does the forum team think the one week default is ok?
>>
>> i’ve noticed several helpers suggest the questioner use paste.opensuse
>> tell to increase delete time to ‘never’…
>>
>> should all answer givers be required to type the expire suggestion each
>> and every time? and, does each answer giver decide how long the paste
>> should persist?
>>
>> or, just leave to the questioner to decide…or not, and leave one week
>> ?
>>
>> if you or forum team don’t care, say so…
>
> sigh
>
> I’ll provide my feedback as well, but I suggest that it would also help
> if people who actually use paste.opensuse.org tell the person who runs
> it their opinions as well.
Done.
I do note that the sigh above might denote exasperation - it does, but
mostly with myself for not considering your points before my response.
That said, requests coming from people who use the service (I do not) I
believe will generally have more weight.
If I were operating the system, I’d probably be disinclined myself to set
a default of ‘never’ since that means monitoring space usage on the
system; a default of “auto-delete” makes sense from a space management
perspective.
