hello, I recently installed 11.4, and now I notice that pan newsreader isn’t starting up. I also tried Grabit using wine, but same result. I there maybe a way I could get pan to work, or is there another NZB-grabber available that I can use in 11.4?
Thanks in advance, Frank
Moved to beta
11.4 is a development release…you do realise that?
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:06:02 +0000, frankjeman wrote:
> hello, I recently installed 11.4, and now I notice that pan newsreader
> isn’t starting up.
What happens if you launch it from a terminal window? You should get
error messages that will help determine what is broken and how to fix it.
Jim
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openSUSE Forums Administrator
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I get the following message after importing any nzb:
frank@linux-sxas:~> pan
Segmentation fault
frank@linux-sxas:~>
thanks in advance, Frank
I would recommend waiting for a more stable release of pan on openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 or RC1.
Cheers!
Romanator
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:06:01 +0000, frankjeman wrote:
> I get the following message after importing any nzb:
>
> frank@linux-sxas:~> pan
> Segmentation fault
> frank@linux-sxas:~>
>
>
> thanks in advance, Frank
That sounds like a bug, you should report that back to the pan team.
Jim
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openSUSE Forums Administrator
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On Saturday 27 Nov 2010 19:54, Jim Henderson scribbled:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:06:01 +0000, frankjeman wrote:
>
>> I get the following message after importing any nzb:
>>
>> frank@linux-sxas:~> pan
>> Segmentation fault
>> frank@linux-sxas:~>
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance, Frank
>
> That sounds like a bug, you should report that back to the pan team.
>
Does the Pan team still exist? The latest version of Pan is 0.133, “House of
Butterflies”, and this is the one provided by openSUSE. This was released on
1st August 2008. According to their website, http://pan.rebelbase.com/, it
is a beta release. The latest stable release is 0.14.2, which was released
on August 31st 2003. Yes, 2003!
I also have the horrible impression that Knode is no longer actively
supported, judging by the lack of any response to bug reports in the past
year or so. I hope I’m mistaken
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
E-mail: “newsman”, not “newsboy”
Another Brick in The Wall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIP38eq-ywc
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:31:50 +0000, Graham P Davis wrote:
> On Saturday 27 Nov 2010 19:54, Jim Henderson scribbled:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:06:01 +0000, frankjeman wrote:
>>
>>> I get the following message after importing any nzb:
>>>
>>> frank@linux-sxas:~> pan
>>> Segmentation fault
>>> frank@linux-sxas:~>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks in advance, Frank
>>
>> That sounds like a bug, you should report that back to the pan team.
>>
>>
> Does the Pan team still exist? The latest version of Pan is 0.133,
> “House of Butterflies”, and this is the one provided by openSUSE. This
> was released on 1st August 2008. According to their website,
> http://pan.rebelbase.com/, it is a beta release. The latest stable
> release is 0.14.2, which was released on August 31st 2003. Yes, 2003!
>
> I also have the horrible impression that Knode is no longer actively
> supported, judging by the lack of any response to bug reports in the
> past year or so. I hope I’m mistaken
The guy who had done a lot of the work on pan (Charles) has headed off to
work on other projects for the most part, but there is another developer
who’s started to take over development by applying user-contributed
patches and building his own repository on github.
0.14.2 is a very old release indeed, pre-rewrite. The 0.13x releases
are described as “beta” but most of us who use it (or follow the pan
mailing lists) consider them to be stable, and the “beta” tag to be
similar to the beta tag that Google used on gmail forever.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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On Sunday 28 Nov 2010 18:55, Jim Henderson scribbled:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:31:50 +0000, Graham P Davis wrote:
>
>> Does the Pan team still exist? The latest version of Pan is 0.133,
>> “House of Butterflies”, and this is the one provided by openSUSE. This
>> was released on 1st August 2008. According to their website,
>> http://pan.rebelbase.com/, it is a beta release. The latest stable
>> release is 0.14.2, which was released on August 31st 2003. Yes, 2003!
>>
>> I also have the horrible impression that Knode is no longer actively
>> supported, judging by the lack of any response to bug reports in the
>> past year or so. I hope I’m mistaken
>
> The guy who had done a lot of the work on pan (Charles) has headed off to
> work on other projects for the most part, but there is another developer
> who’s started to take over development by applying user-contributed
> patches and building his own repository on github.
That’s good news. I’ve been getting pessimistic about the future of
newsreaders. Too many people these days seem to have the odd idea that
forums are somehow superior and hence NNTP usage is falling.
>
> 0.14.2 is a very old release indeed, pre-rewrite. The 0.13x releases
> are described as “beta” but most of us who use it (or follow the pan
> mailing lists) consider them to be stable, and the “beta” tag to be
> similar to the beta tag that Google used on gmail forever.
>
Some might argue that gmail still deserves its beta label but I’d never
stoop so low. 
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
E-mail: “newsman”, not “newsboy”
Another Brick in The Wall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIP38eq-ywc
How did you install M4? I just installed Pan and it works perfectly for me. Did you download a CD/DVD and do a fresh install or an upgrade from 11.3?
Cheers!
etech97 
On 2010-11-28 21:53, Graham P Davis wrote:
> That’s good news. I’ve been getting pessimistic about the future of
> newsreaders. Too many people these days seem to have the odd idea that
> forums are somehow superior and hence NNTP usage is falling.
Quite a number of us access these forums via nntp
In fact, I would not participate here if the nntp <-> forum gateway did not
exist.
But you are right, news related software is lagging behind. I use leafnode
to get a local copy and thunderbird, with local cache disabled - because
leafnode does a better job for that, going from one message to the next is
instantaneous. However, leafnode has some uncorrected bugs. Previously, I
tested a number of readers, and found lacks in all of them. I use
thunderbird because I can accept its set of problems better than the
others’ sets of problems
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On Friday 03 Dec 2010 16:06, etech97 scribbled:
>
> How did you install M4? I just installed Pan and it works perfectly for
> me. Did you download a CD/DVD and do a fresh install or an upgrade from
> 11.3?
>
> Cheers!
> etech97
>
>
Eh? I never said Pan didn’t work. Did I?
Graham
On 2010-12-04 11:50, Graham P Davis wrote:
> On Friday 03 Dec 2010 16:06, etech97 scribbled:
>
>>
>> How did you install M4? I just installed Pan and it works perfectly for
>> me. Did you download a CD/DVD and do a fresh install or an upgrade from
>> 11.3?
>
> Eh? I never said Pan didn’t work. Did I?
Not you, but the OP.
People using the forum do not usually see threads, the default is linear mode.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On Saturday 04 Dec 2010 13:38, Carlos E. R. scribbled:
> On 2010-12-04 11:50, Graham P Davis wrote:
>> On Friday 03 Dec 2010 16:06, etech97 scribbled:
>>
>>>
>>> How did you install M4? I just installed Pan and it works perfectly for
>>> me. Did you download a CD/DVD and do a fresh install or an upgrade from
>>> 11.3?
>
>>
>> Eh? I never said Pan didn’t work. Did I?
>
> Not you, but the OP.
>
> People using the forum do not usually see threads, the default is linear
> mode.
>
Thanks. Trying to make sense of what some of these forum posters are talking
about and to whom is a bit of a pain. Never mind, I guess it’s all part of
life’s rich pageant.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man
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speaking of m4, if I install this will it eventually upgrade stable, or will a reinstall be required? thanks…(I want to use m4 simply because hibernation “works” unlike most other distros…thanks
On 12/12/2010 08:36 PM, joutlan wrote:
>
> speaking of m4, if I install this will it eventually upgrade stable, or
> will a reinstall be required? thanks…(I want to use m4 simply
> because hibernation “works” unlike most other distros…thanks
As each Milestone is released, you will be able to do a “sudo zypper dup” to
upgrade. That will work all the way to the GM.