Haven’t seen any updates for the Packman repo in a couple of months. I thought this was strange because it was always updated pretty often.
Checked Packman website and can see a number of files I have installed from them have been updated - but not showing for me in Yast2.
I have auto-refresh enabled for the packman repo.
Decided to delete the packman repo and add it again. When I did that there were around thirty or forty file updates available.
Have kept an eye on it for a day or two and can see there have been further updates on the website - but these again are not showing for me in Yast2.
Is there anything in particular that might be broken for me in Yast2?
Hi
From memory I think there was a repository key change, so you may have
clicked on no instead of yes at some point? Re adding the repository
would have brought in the new key, so you should be fine.
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Thanks guys - but you will see from my original post that I did delete the packman repo - then adding it again fixed my problem with a whole bunch of updates but that I am not receiving subsequent updates since then
I shouldn’t need to delete and re-add the repo every time I want to check for updates.
Don’t forget we are unpaid volunteer/enthusiasts who just try to help an openSUSE installation/System.
The best place for you if you have comments on the Packman repository policies or implementation is not here but it is on the Packman mailing list or alternatively you can raise comments on the Packman IRC channel.
farcusnz wrote:
> I shouldn’t need to delete and re-add the repo every time I want to
> check for updates.
agreed! but, maybe you are thinking of the packman repo as a single
place on earth…when in fact ‘the’ packman repo is mirrored all over
earth, and when you access that repo via software.opensuse.org you are
automatically redirected to the nearest to you mirror (more on that
here, if wish to read it: http://tinyurl.com/33oft86)…which maybe
is not being updated as it should be, or is presenting you with other
difficulties…and, when you check with your browser and “can see
there have been further updates on the website” it is entirely
possible that you are looking at a different, and properly updated
mirror…
therefore, if you specify one spot (as caf4926 suggested), you may
find the problem goes away…
if is does, then we all know what happened…
on the other hand, if you follow the suggestion and it fails to solve
your problem then we can proceed with other potential
problem/solution pairs (like maybe you have a jumbled up install of
zypper, or YaST Online Updater, or YaST, or something else)
so, please contemplate whether or not you want to follow advice
already given…
I had the same strange feeling as @farcusnz. Not seen any Packman updates for a long time.
Thus I did the same as he did. Using YaST I removed the Packman repos and then added the Packman repos from the community list. And there are new versions now (just installed them).
I see that before the Packman URL in my list was
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.2/
and it is now:
http://packman.inode.at/suse/11.2/
I do not know if the Belgium one stopped updating himself and the Austrian one is up to date. And how could I know? I did not choose it, YaST did.
(I use the skynet.be one allready for years without any problem).
Now apart from all the valuable comments from the honourable posters above, my idea is that I did here what most of the openSUSE users would do. Use YaST > Sofware Management > Repos Management to add Packman from the list (as we advise them). Thus I guess that many users have this problem, more because it is not very obvious that there is a problem.
How do we spread the word that removing and newly adding of the Packman repos is a good thing to do?
hcvv wrote:
> How do we spread the word that removing and newly adding of the Packman
> repos is a good thing to do?
that is an excellent question!
WAIT! since we know that ALL openSUSE users are smart (else they
wouldn’t be here), we therefore know all will find this thread by
using google or the forum’s search engine…
that is they will find it if they use a search sting with some words
like: packman problem packman updating packman trouble update packman
auto-refresh packman YaST packman
hmmmm…but, we (whoever ‘we’ are) do need to figure out what the
actual problem is with the packman-software.opensuse-YaST/YaST Online
Update hookup, because (just as farcusnz said) “I shouldn’t need to
delete and re-add the repo every time I want to check for updates.”
so, who do ‘we’ talk to? i guess one or all of these:
the folks ‘owning’ and updating the master packman repo…(i wonder
do they (somehow) routinely look at the repos to make sure they are
up-to-date? hmmmm, are updated pushed to repos or are do the various
mirrors pull…has something there changed, and is now broken?)
the folks owning/operating the magic redirector which selects and
routes requests to the various mirrors…(maybe that thing got broken
somehow…hmmm, i wonder if it checks which mirrors are up-to-date
and which are not, and then directs only to in-sync repos??)
the folks owning and caring for the various repos (to make sure they
are being updated in a timely manner)…
the folks owning the YaST/Zypper code: has something recently
changed which is causing this problem?
i guess the single question is: can we throw this into bugzilla even
if we have no idea where the problem lies in a long system of
various parts which must all work, together??
RedDwarf wrote:
> they lack manpower. So what seems to be needed are volunteers.
> The fix is simple: Packman should use MirrorBrain. Now you just need
> someone to do that work… and perhaps a new server…
unfortunately, i’m not technically qualified to do much–despite all
my wonderful & amazing talents
but, i went over to packman and see if they accept donations–they do…
at http://packman.links2linux.org/ i learn: “Can I contribute to your
project? Yes. Contact us on our mailing-list <blanked> and we shall
send you the required information.”
hmmm, i can’t see on the site that they actually have a mechanism to
accept cash donations…so, i’ve attempted to join the ML and will
await that, and report back to here…
as i doubt forums.opensuse.org would be anymore than a ghost town
without the goods delivered by packman, i think several (more) here
might ought to consider donating cash/time/talent…
yes, I had the same packman repo listed as the first one noted above.
Have now removed and added again through community repos and have the second one noted.
Seem to be getting the updates as per normal again now.
Looking back at my prev packman updates I would guess that some kind of change occurred around early April with the earlier URL.
edit:
in fact - following the link here we are taken to the skynet mirror list which does not show any updates since March 2010
