Packman Layout Explained

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#1

Packman Layout Explained

We are going to attempt to explain the new packman repository layout.
Some things you should know:

  • Packman is a complete source of multimedia (except libdvdcss)
  • It can now be divided in 4 sections or more typically added as one complete repo
    [LIST]
  • The divisions if you want to use Packman that way, are:
    [LIST]
  • Essentials
  • Extra
  • Games
  • Multimedia

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  • Packman is mirrored in different locations. You can see more about that here:

Additional package repositories - openSUSE

Multimedia Playback
There are established practices and accompanying guides for setting up Multimedia Playback. Here:

Packman
PackMan :: Startseite Packman] offers various additional packages for openSUSE. It’s the largest openSUSE external repository.

Version note|Factory|
Index of /suse/Factory Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/Factory Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/Factory/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/Factory Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/Factory Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/Factory Romania]

Version note|Factory Essentials| Provides essentials for multimedia playback
Index of /suse/Factory/Essentials/ Austria]
Index of /suse/Factory/Essentials Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/Factory/Essentials Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/Factory/Essentials/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/Factory/Essentials Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/Factory/Essentials Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/Factory/Essentials Romania]

Version note|11.4| Packman complete software
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4/ Austria]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4 Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/openSUSE_11.4 Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4 Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4 Germany]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4 USA]

Version note|11.4 Essentials| Provides essentials for multimedia playback
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials/ Austria]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials Germany]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials USA]

Version note|11.3| Packman complete software
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/ Austria]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3 Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/openSUSE_11.3 Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3 Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3 Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3 Romania]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3 USA]

Version note|11.3 Essentials| Provides essentials for multimedia playback
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials/ Austria]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials Romania]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials USA]

Version note|11.3 Extra| Misc.
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra/ Austria]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra Germany]
[http://ftp.gts.lug.ro/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra/ Romania]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.3/Extra USA]

Version note|11.2|
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.2 Germany]
Index of /packman.links2linux.de/suse/openSUSE_11.2 Germany]
Index of /pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.2/ Germany]
Index of /packman/suse/openSUSE_11.2 Germany]
Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.2 Germany]
Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.2 USA]

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#2

We moved a copy of this post here from the 'How To/FAQ Read only section

Inviting comments/ideas/feedback

#3

On 03/06/2011 06:06 AM, caf4926 wrote:
>
> Inviting comments/ideas/feedback

says we can add any of, or all four sections of repos for:

essentials
extras
games
multimedia

but, for 11.4 i see only
complete
essentials
(no games, no multimedia, no extras) ??

for 11.3 i see only
complete
essentials
extras|misc
(no games no multimedia, but something called misc)

and, 11.2 has none of those four sections

also, what i don’t see is, what is the URL which goes through
mirrorbrain for 11.3 Packman complete software (ok, i see i can select
from sites in Austria, Germany, Romania and the USA…but, do i have
to pick which site?)…

oh, i see a “Packman:Startsite” <http://packman.links2linux.de/>, is
that the address that goes through the brain? if so, how do i make
sure it never draws anything from the ‘factory’?

wait, i just tried to load packman.links2linux.de into YaST and barfed…

will 11.4 be born knowing the URL for all four sections of packman?

and, will the address for all four sections for 11.3 be available in
this thread, or on the Wiki, or where? (and when?)

–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

#4

On 2011-03-06 06:06, caf4926 wrote:
>
> PACKMAN LAYOUT EXPLAINED

Very nice!

One suggestion:

> (http://tinyurl.com/64dhoc8) Germany]

Avoid tinyurls, it makes hard reading and difficult pasting into yast, one
extra step to expand it.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

#5

On 03/06/2011 01:33 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Avoid tinyurls, it makes hard reading and difficult pasting into yast, one
> extra step to expand it.

heh! the problem is (i think) that the wonderful webforum software
automatically (when it sees a URL) converts the YaST usable URL into a
non-YaST usabel tinyurl…

cool huh?

–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

#6

As I noted before, I find that layout - well - sorry, but I find it confusing. If Packman is going to be split up into different sub repositories, which it is, then IMHO we should stay consistent with the list of all other repositories, and list them accordingly … ie something like:

Packman - overall

  • Factory - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.4 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.3 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.2 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.1 Evergreen - Germany USA

Packman - Essential

  • Factory - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.4 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.3 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.2 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.1 Evergreen - Germany USA

Packman - Extra

  • Version-11.4 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.3 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA
  • Version-11.2 - Austria Germany Germany Germany Germany Germany Romania USA

I just made the above ‘up’ without looking at precise links, so it would need to be tuned.

I confess anything else just confuses me. Can’t we be consistent with how this was laid out before?

#7

Can’t we be consistent with how this was laid out before?
Sure. If you like.

I was working with Martin Seidler on this. He can sign off on alteration to that wiki page

#8

On 2011-03-06 14:00, DenverD wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 01:33 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Avoid tinyurls, it makes hard reading and difficult pasting into yast, one
>> extra step to expand it.
>
> heh! the problem is (i think) that the wonderful webforum software
> automatically (when it sees a URL) converts the YaST usable URL into a
> non-YaST usabel tinyurl…

I know…

> cool huh?

Indeed!

There should be a button or option to deactivate tinies.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

#9

I have to agree here, I prefer this version i.e. consistent with the normal repo listing.

#10

I agree with Oldcpu. It would also help if there were an indication of why anyone would want to have a repo split into different divisions. What is the benefit to the user?
We have been encouraged to limit the number of active repo sites to four, or now five with the addition of the dedicated libdvdcss site. Why now complicate matters and how will that influence the already complicated process of getting multimedia to work properly? OK I know there is now one click install but if one is trying to learn about the wonders of Linux, this is not instructive. Great to use if all works well but if not …?

#11

On 2011-03-14 01:06, Budgie2 wrote:
>
> I agree with Oldcpu. It would also help if there were an indication of
> why anyone would want to have a repo split into different divisions.
> What is the benefit to the user?

Because most people will only need the essentials repo; and this one being
smaller, every package management tool will run faster, having less
metainfo to download. This also impacts less mirrors.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

#12

It should be mentioned that a) it is still possible to use packman as a single repository by simply adding the main-URL to YaST / zypper and b) that when using one of the sub-divided repos one must always also use the “essentials”-URL.

#13

Hello.
What is the difference between
Index of /suse/openSUSE_12.2/
and
Index of /suse/12.2/

#14

Zero, Nil, Nothing

#15

Thanks for sharing packman

#16

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