OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Release: Where To Find This So To Verify if I am Up to Date?

Hey there, OpenSUSE Community for Tumbleweed.

I hope you are all very well.

I have a super simple and basic question. Since Monday of this week (August 28th), I haven’t seemed to have an update for the dup pulls.

Being that I am pretty used to regular updates daily, I wanted to wait before asking - do I have a problem?

I did my best to SE the current version ID for Tumbleweed but I can’t seem to find this answer. Also, I am not sure how to fully verify if my current edition is fully updated/secure or if I have a break somewhere making me unable to update my system properly.

Please excuse me if below I am just tossing out too much information. Any educational advice or guidance would be well appreciated, thank you!. :slight_smile:

For context, this is the information I have verified via my local that is running TW:

name@name:~> uname -an
Linux XXXX 6.4.11-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Aug 17 04:57:43 UTC 2023 (X) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
name@name:~> cat /etc/*release
NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed"
# VERSION="20230828"
ID="opensuse-tumbleweed"
ID_LIKE="opensuse suse"
VERSION_ID="20230828"
PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed"
ANSI_COLOR="0;32"
CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:tumbleweed:20230828"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugzilla.opensuse.org"
SUPPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org"
HOME_URL="https://www.opensuse.org"
DOCUMENTATION_URL="https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed"
LOGO="distributor-logo-Tumbleweed"
name@name:~> sudo zypper repos
Repository priorities are without effect. All enabled repositories share the same priority.

# | Alias                            | Name                       | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh
--+----------------------------------+----------------------------+---------+-----------+--------
1 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss    | Main Repository (NON-OSS)  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
2 | download.opensuse.org-oss        | Main Repository (OSS)      | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
3 | download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed | Main Update Repository     | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
4 | openSUSE-20220923-0              | openSUSE-20220923-0        | No      | ----      | ----
5 | repo-debug                       | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug  | No      | ----      | ----
6 | repo-oss                         | repo-oss                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
7 | repo-source                      | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source | No      | ----      | ----

name@name:~> uname -an
Linux XXX 6.4.11-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Aug 17 04:57:43 UTC 2023 (2a5b3f6) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Yea, updates, in general, are almost a daily event.

However, there are lulls every now and then, where you’ll not see an update for days, except maybe a browser update. Then sometimes, you’ll get a HUGE update.

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@MoonyGar Hi, there are Forum Notifications on when a new Tumbleweed snapshot is released. Nothing unusual for a delay… After the likes of a glibc updated, there are always some rapid fire snapshot releases picking up leaf packages that have been fixed.

Plus there was the data center move last week and a few teething issues along with the openSUSE Build Service going AWOL a number of times…

You can follow the openQA testing here https://openqa.opensuse.org/ then click on the ‘Failed’ tests to see what may be blocking release…

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Thank you, and much appreciated. I find their documentation page and am thrilled to have so much to read and learn about. :slight_smile: This is a huge help, thank you!

Generally speaking, is there a certain level of a lack of confidence a regular user of TW should have if they are not getting updates? Atm, I was debating on throwing up a VM and doing an install to see if that VerID is different than the local main system.

Thanks again! :slight_smile:

@MoonyGar Not really, the other option recommended to Tumbleweed users is to follow the factory mailing list as you can also see there what may be holding up a release…
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/

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Thanks. I will subscribe to this distribution.

I hope you have a wonderful weekend!

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@MoonyGar this is another place to look at the status, I think a little better https://factory-dashboard.opensuse.org/

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Rock on, and thanks for sharing and following up with this new input option.

I look forward to studying and understanding this, too.

Also, looks like I was just being… to impatient. The update today was pretty usual massive TW dup lol

Thanks again! :slight_smile:

Sorry can’t resist (off topic) I assumed you are one of those guys like me who say that phrase, forgotten by the new generation. Rock in the new era is dead and it is sad to hear the true music is forgotten. :disappointed_relieved: :cry:

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I totally get the nostalgia look back and let down. It’s rough to get used to the new terms and uses. I have linguistically worked to learn modern, historical, edge, and even regional terms and phrases for conversations. Some I just pepper through because I enjoy how they feel for each conversation and term use.

What’s the real challenge - mastering English and other languages lol. I am working on Spanish atm but looking to get the other Romantic languages and their unique historical, modern term use qualities, too.

Rock on, my friend - rock on all the way, all the time!

Ask zypper:

erlangen:~ # zypper -n dup -D
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
Computing distribution upgrade...
Nothing to do.
erlangen:~ # 
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There was a gap from 20230828 to 20230901 experienced here, shortly followed by 20230902.

You may expect to encounter problems as a result of misused terminology. The problem is how the word “update” is thrown about. Rarely are there any “updates” to TW. Each time the TW release version changes, it represents a “new” distribution (release), so what your OP generalizes as “update” is in fact a Distribution UPgrade (aka dist-upgrade - see zypper man page), which is why you use zypper dup and not zypper up when you wish to get fully upgraded.

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Ahhh, right, and thanks for the guidance-correction. That clarification of communication is very small (based on dup vs up) but the actual use case is very vast in use case. A distribution upgrade is what is occurring not an update like what we would be with the more long-term stable use needed in builds that require LEAP.

Thanks again for this correction; it is super helpful for me going forward. I need to “upgrade” my terminology awareness. :slight_smile: