I am a linux user since 5 years, tried most of the distro, but stick to opensuse, the best feature is software installation (add remove software) recently tried Fedora 13 also but this feature in fedora is confusing, I cant remove all the games from that,
We would agree with your title message.
Enjoy
And enjoy openSUSE
I gave Kubuntu Lucid a try since I have a weird issue with hard disk clicking whilst using opensuse. There were so many bugs and the lack of polish was far too annoying. Opensuse is hands down the best distro for the KDE desktop. Going to try out PClinuxOS next.
Yeh Kubuntu really sucks these days, while Ubuntu standard is really impressive its KDE implementation has always been meh.
For those who want KDE in Ubuntu just install KDE not kubuntu desktop in Ubuntu, it works a lot better.
PClinux might actually have a good KDE desktop though, I tried it out and it works fair enough.
I have tried only one distro before openSUSE and that was Ubuntu. I didnât have installed for very long because I didnât like it. Ubuntu couldnât get the resultion right for the login screen, it didnât have the drivers for my wireless, and it wouldnât let me switch ttys while a tty with X was running! What I like about openSUSE is that itâs kind of an intermediate distro. The problem I have found with most distros is they are usually ether a little too newbie friendly, they donât have the drivers you need (seems to be the biggest problem for me), or they are just a headache to setup. OpenSUSE seems to take a best approach by, having an easy setup, good driver support, and it doesnât stop you from getting your hands dirty. I have used other distros since installing openSUSE, but the only one that seems to come close in my favorites is Fedora, which I use on my netbook.
I also like Fedora, and Iâve often noted that if were not for the packages packaged by the Packman packagers for openSUSE, I would move to Fedora. Fortunately the Packman packagers continue to do a great job for openSUSE, and Iâm still here (since 2001).
Just out of interest, oldcpu - why Fedora? Because itâs so cutting edge, allegedly? Having perused the features of the recently releases F13, and some poor experiences with F11, I decided that openSUSE 11.3 will pretty much offer anything that F13 offers.
Fedora offers aspects that I like. For example, Fedora (via Red Hat) contribute significantly in quickly sending bug fixes upstream to help all Linux distributions. The Linux distribution which many claim is the most popular distribution has a relatively poor record for this. Too poor IMHO. That (reputation of the purported most popular Linux distribution) is unacceptable to me, while I like Fedoraâs approach. I also find the Fedora support forums more technically helpful than that of the distribution which many claim to be the most popular Linux distribution. Despite having a reputation by many as being very cutting edge, Fedora is still not so complex that an average user likely myself can not survive in it. Indeed its not difficult. With its rpm based Software Management, Fedora is also relatively easy for an openSUSE user to move to Fedora with not too much a learning curve in the way of software management.
I also started Linux with Red Hat, back in 1998, so there is a vague familiarity about Fedora that I like.
Having typed all the above, I have to remind any one who did NOT bother to read my previous post, that clearly I am a big openSUSE fan. OpenSUSE IS my first choice for a Linux distribution.
Thanks for that, interesting. Although you mainly give reasons why Fedoraâs better than Ubuntu, and few clues as to why youâd prefer it to openSUSE if it wasnât for the Packman repositories, as you initially stated. Donât misunderstand me, Iâm not digging for anything, just genuinely curious as there must be something to Fedora which makes it so popular but I canât figure out exactly what its appeal is.
The reasons I gave are very important to some of us.
Some of us actually believe in Free Software as per the Free Software foundation definition of free, and accordingly we believe in the need to share fixes and quickly pass them upstream. Fedora is VERY good at that. From my perspective, that in itself is enough to make Fedora popular.
Fedora is also a cutting edge version that is very similar to Red Hat, where Red Hat is on more servers around the world than any other operating system. Hence there is a practically for anyone who learns Fedora.
I think users who âjust useâ Linux, but give no thought as to where their Linux distribution fits in the over all scheme of operating systems and Linux distributions, will not understand the above.
I hear rumours from some distro hoppers that say that latest Fedora has a karnal (yep, they pronounce it like that suddenly) that will accept any hardware, and like any rumour, this one has believers as well. 2 Months ago there was Ubuntu for reasons I did not understand, now itâs Fedora, in July it will probably be openSUSE. Another one is âthat SuSE 9.3 is the safest everâ. Point is that I see none of these guys and gals ever do any real work, the only thing they do is install, reinstall, update till bleeding edge / non working system, on to the next distro.
Yes you are right I do install, reinstall update but never had a non working system and do real work in my office. I use linux because there is no virus when someone plugin a pendrive in my office system for printouts
I waited for SuSE 10.0, (2003?), Xandros was my first 'NIX system out of Win '95 and it was just too much like Windoze, scene I have played with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PCLOS, Mandrake, Elive they all functioned reasonably well Elive E17 is a pretty distro and the enlightenment window manager was viciously fast on my hardware but at the end of the day SuSE is the one I depend on.
Every aspect of SuSE from ease of installation, hardware detection, software management, available apps tailored for SuSE, reliability and security SuSE has consistently met my needs and I install SuSE for all of my friends and coworkers that are interested. Over the years this has become quite a large number of installs, in a few months about half of them invite me to supper and ask me to make room and put the M$ installation in the âbit bucketâ and it feels great to do so, another liberated human being.
For me, the comparison ends at SuSE, there is no comparison.
Enjoy and have a good time.
Regards, Cfn7
âAny technology, if sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magicâ
(Theronâs observation on Murphyâs Law)
Iâve never met a Linux distro that I couldnât beat into cowering submission, and write a blog about it. Or wipe out. rotfl!
Doesnât have to be that black-and-white, does it? I do care about these things too but would not prefer Fedora over openSUSE for that reason alone.
My view is openSUSE and SLED/SLES endeavors to be the same as Fedora in that respect (in terms of SLES being on more platforms around the world). In many ways, openSUSE is the cutting edge of SLED/SLES.
SuSE-GmbH (and the openSUSE community), like the Fedora/Red-Hat team, is also VERY good at passing fixes upstream.
Hence the category in which you hope openSUSE is not like Fedora, is indeed the very category which IMHO makes them similar.
Goes to show, I guess, the different filters through which each of us view things.
I msut say it out loud: Opensuse 11.3 is WOW! Amazing! Cool! And solid! I am very pleased and happy I upgraded to it.
Glad you are enjoying it. I agree. openSUSE 11.3 is an amazing release
Yes! I agree with you too. I really like it.