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Hi

I have some questions regarding OpenSuse and Suse Linux Enterprise Server available from Novell.

(1) What is the difference between OpenSuse and Suse Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) ? I see there is a link to download SLES in the Novell site. Will we have to buy SLES after 60 days for us to continue to use that OS ?

(2) I see this link

Software.openSUSE.org

There is this link to download 4.7 GB DVD of Opensuse. Does that mean we need not have to download any packages from this repository,

Index of /distribution/11.2/repo/oss/suse/i586

For installing Oracle on Opensuse 9 I remember I had to install many of those packages on my laptop.

Do we still need to install those packages ?

(3) I have to install this SUSE (either Opensuse or SLES) on my laptop. My Laptop is Compaq Presario CQ60.

Can I connect to Internet if I install this software ?

Last time I faced lots of problems. I thought some laptops cannot be configured to Internet if installed with Linux.

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Welcome to the openSUSE forums! :slight_smile:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:26:01 +0000, oraclejet wrote:

> I have some questions regarding OpenSuse and Suse Linux Enterprise
> Server available from Novell.
>
> (1) What is the difference between OpenSuse and Suse Linux Enterprise
> Server (SLES) ? I see there is a link to download SLES in the Novell
> site. Will we have to buy SLES after 60 days for us to continue to
> use that OS ?

openSUSE is the community-developed project; SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE)
builds on the community project, adds extended support (beyond the
openSUSE timeframes; for example, SLE9 is still maintained and updated by
Novell; SUSE 9.x (the predecessor to openSUSE) is now out of support).

SLE updates require a subscription; after 60 days, you can continue to
use the product, but your updates will be limited unless you purchase a
subscription.

> (2) I see this link
>
> ‘Software.openSUSE.org’ (http://software.opensuse.org/112/en)
>
> There is this link to download 4.7 GB DVD of Opensuse. Does that mean
> we need not have to download any packages from this repository,
>
> ‘Index of /distribution/11.2/repo/oss/suse/i586’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/)
>
> For installing Oracle on Opensuse 9 I remember I had to install many
> of those packages on my laptop.
>
> Do we still need to install those packages ?

It’s hard for me to say because I don’t know the dependencies that Oracle
has for their client; the DVD includes all packages that are in the OSS
repository so you should be OK, but there undoubtably are updates that
will be installed from the update repository.

> (3) I have to install this SUSE (either Opensuse or SLES) on my
> laptop. My Laptop is Compaq Presario CQ60.
>
> Can I connect to Internet if I install this software ?
>
> Last time I faced lots of problems. I thought some laptops cannot
> be configured to Internet if installed with Linux.

It will probably work, but if you download one of the LiveCD builds, you
can test the hardware detection and see how it works yourself - that’s
far better than us trying to guess (unless someone here has the same
laptop and can report on their success) based on the published specs of
the machine.

Jim

–
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator

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Oracle on SLES 10 and 11 requires you to install the Oracle software but
there is an ‘orarun’ package which sets up the system to be ready for
Oracle once you install the software from Oracle (modifies kernel settings
and such for you, creates the ‘oracle’ system user, etc.).

Hardware support in Linux has improved a lot since SUSE 9 was out. As Jim
mentioned, give it a try with the LiveCD/DVD media if nothing else, and
then realize there are still options after you install.

Good luck.

Jim Henderson wrote:
> Welcome to the openSUSE forums! :slight_smile:
>
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:26:01 +0000, oraclejet wrote:
>
>> I have some questions regarding OpenSuse and Suse Linux Enterprise
>> Server available from Novell.
>>
>> (1) What is the difference between OpenSuse and Suse Linux Enterprise
>> Server (SLES) ? I see there is a link to download SLES in the Novell
>> site. Will we have to buy SLES after 60 days for us to continue to
>> use that OS ?
>
> openSUSE is the community-developed project; SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE)
> builds on the community project, adds extended support (beyond the
> openSUSE timeframes; for example, SLE9 is still maintained and updated by
> Novell; SUSE 9.x (the predecessor to openSUSE) is now out of support).
>
> SLE updates require a subscription; after 60 days, you can continue to
> use the product, but your updates will be limited unless you purchase a
> subscription.
>
>> (2) I see this link
>>
>> ‘Software.openSUSE.org’ (http://software.opensuse.org/112/en)
>>
>> There is this link to download 4.7 GB DVD of Opensuse. Does that mean
>> we need not have to download any packages from this repository,
>>
>> ‘Index of /distribution/11.2/repo/oss/suse/i586’
>> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/)
>>
>> For installing Oracle on Opensuse 9 I remember I had to install many
>> of those packages on my laptop.
>>
>> Do we still need to install those packages ?
>
> It’s hard for me to say because I don’t know the dependencies that Oracle
> has for their client; the DVD includes all packages that are in the OSS
> repository so you should be OK, but there undoubtably are updates that
> will be installed from the update repository.
>
>> (3) I have to install this SUSE (either Opensuse or SLES) on my
>> laptop. My Laptop is Compaq Presario CQ60.
>>
>> Can I connect to Internet if I install this software ?
>>
>> Last time I faced lots of problems. I thought some laptops cannot
>> be configured to Internet if installed with Linux.
>
> It will probably work, but if you download one of the LiveCD builds, you
> can test the hardware detection and see how it works yourself - that’s
> far better than us trying to guess (unless someone here has the same
> laptop and can report on their success) based on the published specs of
> the machine.
>
> Jim
>
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> Last time I faced lots of problems. I thought some laptops cannot
> be configured to Internet if installed with Linux.

depends on the internal hardware (network/wireless) selected by the
manufacture for the laptop, and the drivers they provide for
it…if the laptop was made to be 100% compatible with MS-XP, it
may not work with Vista, Win7, Win95 or Linux…

Dell, IBM/Leveno, HP and others make laptops sold with Linux
installed–they will certainly connect to the net with Linux, but
may not with any MS or Apple system…

–
palladium

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I have decided to try Opensuse now. I have already started downloading using Mozilla Firefox. But suddenly after downloading 254 MB it stopped for no apparent reason. I restarted Firefox still it is not progressing.

Have anyone here faced similar problems?

Maybe it is better to download using Bittorrent option.

I checked in that repository and there is no Orarun package. So it seems to be available only for SLES and SLED and not Opensuse version.

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Bittorent tends to have a higher reliability when downloading than when using a browser, because it does do checksums of various bits and pieces and re-downloads when these parts fail.

Another faster way (but does not share like torrent) is to use a download accelerator. Lately I have been using prozgui (a linux download accelerator) and I find it quite good. I suspect MS-Windows also has download accelerators.

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Orarun should be in the bits and pieces that come with Oracle.

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Also be sure that you give the root partition extra room since Oracle tends to be large. You also may want to setup a separate partition to use for the Oracle data.

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I don’t know, but this clearly falls within the realm of the do-able:
If you have the list of software required, from the last time, you should be able to tell which repos that the software is in from Get It!. If you have the relevant repos enabled, just use Yast > Install and Remove Software. May use a bit of bandwidth, but it is easy.

(3) I have to install this SUSE (either Opensuse or SLES) on my laptop. My Laptop is Compaq Presario CQ60.

Can I connect to Internet if I install this software ?

Last time I faced lots of problems. I thought some laptops cannot be configured to Internet if installed with Linux.

Well, if you use an ethernet connection, this will certainly be possible. If you use a wireless connection to a router, it really ought to be possible, but may be more difficult.

It also depends a bit on what you are using to connect to the internet with. Things with ethernet ports tend to be easier than USB devices.

As to the question as to whether you can do all this, that is really hard for me to answer, but I can only say most of it is possible, but some combinations of hardware make things more difficult than others. If you haven’t done this before, you may need more help than otherwise. I hope that you are good at describing your problems clearly and accurately, because that always helps.