Is a version of openSUSE 13.1 64 bit available with OpenBox rather than an full Desktop Environment, or would I have to build one?
Thanks in advance.
You can install from here
http://software.opensuse.org/search
just search for openbox.
AFAIK thee are no ver prebuilt with it but I guess you could make one with the build service
Hi
Have a browse of the SUSE Studio gallery;
https://susestudio.com/browse
Find one you like, clone, tweak and build…
Thank you gogalthorp and malcolm for your suggestions. However, I see nothing ready-made that fits the bill (based on oSUSE 13.1 64 bit, with openbox installed as the window manager in an otherwise independent desktop environment), similar to what CrunchBang, ArchBang and others offer with Debian and Arch based systems; so I would have to start with the basic command line system and add the necessary elements to it, a task that may be beyond my present capabilities, given my own past experience.
If I had a list of at least the types of applications required to construct a working system, it might be feasible using xfce &/or lxde modules. But it would probably take some knowledge of coding to weave them together and I think I am going to have to let it pass for now, since I am a user rather than a programmer and have too many outstanding commitments at present to be able to dedicate myself to getting the job done.
I have been using openbox on Debian derivatives (i.e Sparky Ultra Openbox) and have found the system fast and stable, fully capable of performing the tasks more graphically complete desktop environments like Gnome and KDE can do but with less bloat, once one has become familiar with where things are located.
You could just use minimal X option and install openbox on top of that.
Get the entire base system and X server, then you only need to configure login manager and desktop manager.
That’s what I did last year, only I used blackbox from Malcom’s repo which isn’t there anymore.
On Wed 26 Feb 2014 02:36:01 PM CST, finders wrote:
You could just use minimal X option and install openbox on top of that.
Get the entire base system and X server, then you only need to configure
login manager and desktop manager.
That’s what I did last year, only I used blackbox from Malcom’s repo
which isn’t there anymore.
Hi
Yup, it was having issues building… I can resurrect the blackbox one
if you like and have another play with it?
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It would help to know the name of an appropriate login manager and desktop manager. (Although I would probably use xfce or lxde components, which are present in the openSUSE repositories, although I’m not sure how much I should mix them). I would also need a file manager and a package manager.
And I’m not sure when I would be able to work at it. Maybe over the weekend, but I may not have a chance.
Would be nice, if you got the time. I still have the old one in backups, but no rpm.
It works fine in 13.1, converted a couple of bbLean styles, reconstructed the menu and made some minor edit to openbox-kde-session script.
# Run KDE with Openbox as its window manager
export KDEWM="/usr/bin/blackbox"
exec startkde "$@"
I’m more or less doing that on some of my latest virt guests…
MinimalX (IceWM) install
Then I add whatever I want, typically things like the following
LXterminal (I can’t remember all the BASH shortcuts so I find the menu options useful. Also has some Konsole style highlighting)
Web Browser (something lightweight)
Although I’ve considered installing a file manager, I’m currently just installing and running “tree” from the command line
A current gotcha running MinimalX(IceWM), I’ve submitted a bug that the system won’t shutdown from the Main Menu(You can do everything else including logout). Instead, just invoke shutdown from a root console.
You start off lean with little more than a bare desktop, terminals and YAST. Add anything else you want (I generally choose LXDE or XFCE apps).
TSU
On Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:06:02 PM CST, finders wrote:
Would be nice, if you got the time. I still have the old one in backups,
but no rpm.
Hi
OK, it’s back bbdock and bbtools aren’t building though…
https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/home:malcolmlewis:blackbox
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**Suse Studio makes doing this easy. https://susestudio.com/appliance/edit/1137553#/software
The only options at first are Server, KDE, Gnome & Just enough. Choosing the latter, provides:
Software sources**
openSUSE 13.1 Updates ,
openSUSE 13.1 OSS
Add repositories… Upload RPMs…
Selected software
for a total of 690 mb, uncompressed. I may try doing two or three builds, one from xfce and the other from lxde packages and perhaps one mixed.
Maybe I should try finder’s or tsu’s build (I tend to associate kde with animated icons but Qt is very efficient for some tasks). The IceWM (written in C++ instead of C and does tabbed windows) seems similar to Openbox (which has a considerable following and I am becoming familiar with it.
Searching on xfce shows 135 options and doesn’t include Thunar or provide explanations, so I opened Yast’s Software Manager in another computer, to help me make choices.
I still had to do a lot of guesswork and have no idea how this will turn out.
I did not try to construct a light system but rather, include just what I use, with a simple interface. It the system is usable, I can add or subtract to it.
Here’s how it ended up:
Software information
- 1pattern selected
- 80packages selected
- 603total packages
**
**
[RIGHT]**based on openSUSE 13.1
610 MB download, 2.1 GB uncompressed
**[/RIGHT]
Software sources
openSUSE 13.1 Updates ,
openSUSE 13.1 OSS
Add repositories… Upload RPMs…
Selected software
Whether or it will boot and run with everything working is the question.
Thanks Malcolm, it works.
It’s ancient, kinda different from bbLean I was used to, but still great.
In bbLean there’s a desktop margin option and also the ability to rightclick inside the menu.
This opens a shell context from which you can cut/copy/paste/move etc. At least that’s how it works in windows.
Where do I find a script command I can use to logout/reboot/shutdown?
In KDE I just use ksmserver:
[exec](logout) {qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 0 0}
[exec](reboot) {qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 1 1}
[exec](shutdown) {qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 2}
But I suspect it’s possible to send these instructions directly to X
RazorQT somehow does that without ksmserver.