openSUSE mail list don't seem to be to "open"

I admit to probably doing it wrong but I get the distinct feeling that the openSUSE mailing lists are not very “open” The last two post I have tried to make to different list were met with the polite versions of FOAD. You can’t have a community if you don’t allow new people in and welcome new people into it. I love openSUSE but I guess I’ll just stick to reading the mailing lists I am subscribed to and post in the forums. No wonder so many people have left the lists. I’ll not try to participate again. I realize trying to post anything there is useless unless you are an oldtimer or insider even If I was doing it ‘wrong.’

You should post the links to the mail archive such that people reading
your post have an idea what you are speaking about and can judge how
they see it.

As a personal observation: The opensuse.org mailing lists seem to be
very different in their signal to noise ratio and also in what people
with what mindset are subscribed to them. My personal observation is
that the signal to noise ratio on opensuse@opensuse.org is really bad
(not valid for the other opensuse.org ones which I am subscribed to - of
course only a small subset of the available ones).

Take also into account that when on a list 99% are friendly and helpful
and only 1% not but if in addition this minority of 1% spams almost any
thread with their unfriendly and useless (and often off topic) comments
then you will get a wrong impression about people on the list.
Do not generalize too much.


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On 08/21/2012 10:46 AM, FlameBait wrote:
>
> I admit to probably doing it wrong but I get the distinct feeling that
> the openSUSE mailing lists are not very “open” The last two post I have
> tried to make to different list were met with the polite versions of
> FOAD. You can’t have a community if you don’t allow new people in and
> welcome new people into it.

i do not remember what you said in your ML posts, but i do remember
how you said it…and i remember when i read it i made a note to ploink…

i do not have to be welcoming to everyone who knocks on my door, be it
actually or virtually…and, the same goes for the community…if you
want to be accepted, you have to present yourself acceptably…

ymmv, obviously.


dd

I don’t see what way “plonk” about asking folks to not post off topic stuff to my question if that is what you were talking about.

I see you just got nailed by one of the same persons in factory.

On 08/22/2012 11:36 AM, FlameBait wrote:

> I don’t see what way “plonk” about asking folks to not post off topic
> stuff to my question if that is what you were talking about.

as said, i don’t remember what you said…wait i did some searching:

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-07/msg00694.html

is the beginning of a thread where you dribbled out facts in slow motion
and then got angry, rude and disrespectful when another told you so.

ploink

> I see you just got nailed by one of the same persons in factory.

kids will be kids…i don’t have to read theirs any longer, either.


dd

On 2012-08-22 15:09, dd@home.dk wrote:
> On 08/22/2012 11:36 AM, FlameBait wrote:

> is the beginning of a thread where you dribbled out facts in slow motion and then got angry,
> rude and disrespectful when another told you so.

And that should not happen with a nick such as “flame bait” which hints that he really wants
such responses.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

Robin I have had this handle forever and I was not trying to create a problem. I was earnestly trying to get help without having my query derailed. I thought I had given adequate information. I only gave the information I was requested to give. As my signature contains the version of openSUSE I run and my desktop environment information I though that was sufficent. I had no idea what terminal interface I was running except it was the default one. I know now it’s xterm.

I still have the problem. That whole situation didn’t leave me wanting to take any more of Martin’s time. He was the only person I can say was helpful and drilled right down to the problem. I haven’t had time to set up another user to see if that account exhibits the same issue with the size the terminal window opens in or not since I’ve been back from my trip. When I get a spare minute I always have something running I can’t stop to log out and log back into the other account to check as Martin suggested.

I thought I had lurked enough on the mail lists to know how to use them without problems. I was in no way trolling. I don’t have time for that and I’d get no enjoyment out of doing it at all. I really was only trying to participate and get a problem solved or at least get a clue as to what was going on.