Same here it changed from 0 (as far as I am aware) to 1 
The rest are using Windows or OS X.
That’s 12 years of updates for a single lump sum of money, even though that depends greatly on how many CALs you get, then again with a VL license that is not an issue.
For comparison, a single SLES server during that time frame would have cost a minimum of 8,000$ (5 years of updates is 3600$, so give or take a few hundred that would be around the neighbourhood).
Microsoft has understood one thing that a lot of Linux people don’t seem to get; it doesn’t matter if they pay for your product, as long as they use it. Same goes for Adobe, they understood this with Photoshop and other professional tools.
Microsoft has understood one thing that a lot of Linux people don’t seem to get;
I agree.
regards
Is OpenSUSE part of the Internet Defense League? https://www.internetdefenseleague.org/
That may be one area worth looking at, one thing definite is the Mozilla Foundation that builds OpenSUSE is on their listing. Seldom may I see OpenSUSE as a single brand in fact I rather see Novell as the brand instead until yet another acquisition lately. OpenSUSE these days may at best be likened to Debian had been, putting the bits and pieces of everything open-source altogether. Instead of saying it is losing relevance - which honestly I felt that coming from Microsoft Windows 8 when they put in the Metro layout - so far OpenSUSE still depends heavily on KDE 4 and Gnome which imho are very decently up till date, won’t know much about Suse’s integration with Azure clouds etc though never got that far in using Suse appliances.
So my response takes us back to the original question… I just perused distro-watch, for what its worth their stats are showing increased interest for openSUSE over multiple time frames… I know it is only counting page hits so maybe not a good metric for relavence… but it seems to me openSUSE is always mentioned as a major distribution in the various articles, blogs and such so I feel it is well supported and popular…
I like openSUSE - that’s why I post occasionally on the forums - mainly community forums, since I rarely have a question for support. I was a serious fan of SUSE/openSUSE for almost 14 years, from about 1999 till 2013. But I am concerned that the path openSUSE is on is much like the *BSD’s - where are they going? From a server perspective, I have no doubt that running SLES or FreeBSD is the way to go, but when you are travelling, what are you using then? It’s most likely not an openSUSE system, most likely its an Android or Ubuntu gear. As I get older, I get lazier - I hate tweaking everything, it’s a waste of time, my time. If I want software installed, well on an Android device or Ubuntu device, its literally point & click. With FreeBSD, it’s also good - “pkg install whatever” , such as pkg install xfce, for instance, but the software delivery system for openSUSE though, seems overly complex. With openSUSE, I tried to find R, and I did a search within the additional software system for “R” - it returned everything with an “r” or “R” in it - very good, but that’s not what I want; I just want R. With FreeBSD, “pkg install R” will do it all for me; with Ubuntu, its equally easy, just search “R” in the Software Center, and the whole kit & kaboodle installs like a Windows application. Afterall openSUSE is an OS, it’s not just KDE, or Gnome; but it appears that all openSUSE does is just update these packages, but what’s new about the OS itself, in comparison to leaders such as Android?
On 2015-07-30 13:56, BSDuser wrote:
> With openSUSE, I tried to find R, and I did a search within the
> additional software system for “R” - it returned everything with an “r”
> or “R” in it - very good, but that’s not what I want; I just want R.
minas-tirith:~ # zypper --no-refresh se --match-words R
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Summary | Type
--+-----------------+-------------------------------------------------------+--------
| R-base | R - statistics package (S-Plus like) | package
| R-base-devel | Libraries and includefiles for developing with R-base | package
| texlive-specs-r | One spec file for all TeX Live packages | package
minas-tirith:~ #
You might also try “–match-exact”.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
But what did he mean by “additional software system”?
I have an Android phone and Tablet, but when travelling (which I do a LOT) I have my openSUSE running on an Ultrabook. If pushed to take either Tablet or Ultrabook when travelling overnight, if I can not take both then I take the openSUSE Ultrabook (and NOT the Android tablet). The ONLY time the Andoid Tablet is taken over the openSUSE Ultrabook, is during day travelling, when I will have the Tablet in a backpack. BUT if overnight, then it is the Ultrabook in the backpack.
My Ultrabook is light (1.1kg) so maybe that is a factor… The OS is definitely NOT the factor.
I think the direction of openSUSE is good.
On 2015-07-31 12:46, oldcpu wrote:
> I have an Android phone and Tablet, but when travelling (which I do a
> LOT) I have my openSUSE running on an Ultrabook.
What is an “Ultrabook”? :-?
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Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Funniest thing you’ve said in a long time
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:53:05 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2015-07-31 12:46, oldcpu wrote:
>> I have an Android phone and Tablet, but when travelling (which I do a
>> LOT) I have my openSUSE running on an Ultrabook.
>
> What is an “Ultrabook”? :-?
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On 2015-07-31 17:37, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:53:05 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2015-07-31 12:46, oldcpu wrote:
>>> I have an Android phone and Tablet, but when travelling (which I do a
>>> LOT) I have my openSUSE running on an Ultrabook.
>>
>> What is an “Ultrabook”? :-?
>
> http://bfy.tw/15PP
Ah, so it is an trademark and an specification, not a general class. I
have been searching for something of that sort, but I don’t find them in
shops, or they are pretty expensive. None with Linux.
Huh, all the prices shown in that wikipedia article are expensive,
considering that I paid 400€ for my laptop…
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2015-07-31 15:46, swerdna wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2721836 Wrote:
> Funniest thing you’ve said in a long time
Well, the hardware and the names that are familiar to you may not be to
me
I just looked at a local store, and searching for that word, I find
several: http://www.pccomponentes.com/portatiles/ultrabook/
But I’m not sure they match the criteria on the wikipedia article Jim
posted. In fact, the descriptions say “netbooks”.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Indeed Ultrabooks are expensive. But if one wants light weight, with reasonable power and functionality, and if one has the money, then they are a very good option. Many of them run well with GNU/Linux. My Toshiba Z930 Ultrabook runs very good with openSUSE-13.2 with some of my experience with it noted here: https://forums.opensuse.org/entry.php/144-OpenSUSE-12-3-13-1-and-13-2-on-Toshiba-Satellite-Z930-Ultrabook … I have not yet decided if I will put the first issue of openSUSE Leap on it … but then with Leap at least 4 months away, I have lots of time to consider such … plus there is no hurry to install a new openSUSE on one’s hardware.
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On 2015-07-31 21:36, oldcpu wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2721888 Wrote:
>>
>> I have been searching for something of that sort, but I don’t find them
>> in shops, or they are pretty expensive. None with Linux.
>>
>> Huh, all the prices shown in that wikipedia article are expensive,
>> considering that I paid 400€ for my laptop…
>>
> Indeed Ultrabooks are expensive. But if one wants light weight, with
> reasonable power and functionality, and if one has the money, then they
> are a very good option.
No… very nice, but not my choice, then. What I’m slowly looking for
(slowly like in many months), is something small and light weight to
check email safely (ie, not a tablet with Android), and a little
browsing and multimedia. And maybe a few things more. Video chat.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2015-07-31, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
> No… very nice, but not my choice, then. What I’m slowly looking for
> (slowly like in many months), is something small and light weight to
> check email safely (ie, not a tablet with Android), and a little
> browsing and multimedia. And maybe a few things more. Video chat.
Chrome OS?
On 2015-08-05 20:07, flymail wrote:
> On 2015-07-31, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:
>> No… very nice, but not my choice, then. What I’m slowly looking for
>> (slowly like in many months), is something small and light weight to
>> check email safely (ie, not a tablet with Android), and a little
>> browsing and multimedia. And maybe a few things more. Video chat.
>
> Chrome OS?
But that’s an operating system, not a machine.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2015-08-07, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
> On 2015-08-05 20:07, flymail wrote:
>>
>> Chrome OS?
>
> But that’s an operating system, not a machine.
OK let’s try agin: a machine with Chrome OS?
On 2015-08-08 12:49, flymail wrote:
> On 2015-08-07, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:
>> On 2015-08-05 20:07, flymail wrote:
>>>
>>> Chrome OS?
>>
>> But that’s an operating system, not a machine.
>
> OK let’s try agin: a machine with Chrome OS?
Ah. Well, but what I seek for is a lightweight, cheap, machine that runs
Linux. My main problem is finding the hardware. I like my laptop, but it
is heavy if I need to travel far (which I don’t, for now; so, no hurry).
The having chrome os on it… well, it is something similar or related
to android, and android tablets can be obtained cheap. But I do not want
to trust Google with much of my private data, if I can avoid it, so I
would prefer to use Linux instead.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))