Hi forum,
I tried to install openSUSE through hard drive in Windows. Everything is ok but I still have the local boot in Window boot screen. I’ve tried to uninstall and reinstall it but it is still there. What can I do?
Thanks
Hello and welcome.
I have no idea what you mean with that. Can you please better explain how you did the installation (never assume that others do things the same as you do)? And then please do not forget to tell what you installed. Probably openSUSE, but which version?
Just a note since the explanation is kind of hazy.
You do NOT ever install openSUSE from Windows. But it is very unclear what you did do.
Yes I do. Just mount the ISO to a FAT partition then double click the file named openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe. It will add a boot choice when you restart. If you choose it, you will install openSUSE, if you don’t, it will automatic uninstall. I install it but it still there (in Windows boot, not Grub boot).
As said, that is completely wrong. You should follow the instructions at http://software.opensuse.org/131/en, specialy those in “How to Proceed” under b.
On 2014-03-21 10:56, hcvv wrote:
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> ooker;2631840 Wrote:
>> Yes I do. Just mount the ISO to a FAT partition then double click the
>> file named openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe. It will add a boot choice when you
>> restart. If you choose it, you will install openSUSE, if you don’t, it
>> will automatic uninstall. I install it but it still there (in Windows
>> boot, not Grub boot).
> As said, that is completely wrong. You should follow the instructions at
> http://software.opensuse.org/131/en, specialy those in “How to Proceed”
> under b.
No, it is not wrong. Or not clearly so.
The procedure to install from Windows that the OP describes has existed
for decades, and it is valid, at least in theory. The SUSE packagers,
and now the openSUSE packagers, put it there, so /they/ think it works.
The files openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe and openSUSE13_1_NET.exe are clearly in
the installation ISO, and there is an “autorun.inf” file: if you put the
DVD on a windows machine, it will automatically try to run that thing.
It is no surprise at all that newcomers try it. Don’t blame them if they do.
However, the procedure is not documented anywhere that I can find.
Nobody seems to know anything about it. The community knows nothing
about it. Many people don’t even know of its existence. I don’t know if
anybody tries it. I don’t. You don’t.
Conclusion: nobody can give newcomers assistance if they have problems
with it. Regretfully we have to ask newcommers to forget about that
program, and instead boot the DVD and install in the only manner known
to us.
:-}
I will now post an email on the factory list requesting removal of this
feature. Please join me there to support its removal - or that somebody
steps up, documents it, and actively supports people trying to us it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
So I guess I am facing the extraordinary dark secret of openSUSE right? rotfl!
However, it is intended, isn’t it? More than that, it is cool, isn’t it? When I installed, everything is professional and flawlessly. I had thought it was a new feature. It has impressed me, so sad when it must be gone :’(
Installing from windows was added many many versions back but never did work right to my knowledge. Use the published openSUSE ways.
On 2014-03-21 18:26, gogalthorp wrote:
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> Installing from windows was added many many versions back but never did
> work right to my knowledge. Use the published openSUSE ways.
I think I used it once in 1998 
I think that what it does is tell the BIOS to boot just this time from
the DVD, no more. Or rather use a BIOS interrupt call to load and boot
something from somewhere. That’s the theory, but it apparently fails in
interesting ways. One is that, AFAIR, it is a BIOS/MsDOS call, and
Windows interferes. That’s an educated guess on my part.
It is best to really boot from the DVD or USB stick.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-03-21 16:46, ooker wrote:
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> So I guess I am facing the extraordinary dark secret of openSUSE right?
> rotfl!
>
> However, it is intended, isn’t it? More than that, it is cool, isn’t it?
> When I installed, everything is professional and flawlessly. I had
> thought it was a new feature. It has impressed me, so sad when it must
> be gone :’(
You have a choice of media to try openSUSE, without installation, and
see if you like it. Then you can use that same media to install it, or
not. Or use the full DVD media instead.
http://software.opensuse.org/131/en
You can try the “Live Gnome” version, or the “live KDE” version, to try
things out. Both can be installed (and you can switch to the other one
after installation, without a reinstall).
Or choose the 4.7 GB DVD, which allows you to install any of KDE, Gnome,
XFCE, LXDE, and more I don’t remember. One, two, all of them… your
choice. Even plain text mode :-p
Just download the one you like, burn it to a DVD, or a USB stick (read
the instructions), and boot it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
I see, so the cool stuff is bad. Anyway, what about the prolem with boot screen? I think we just need to find the booting part of Windows because it boot in Windows boot screen, not in Grub.
On 2014-03-22 05:26, ooker wrote:
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> I see, so the cool stuff is bad.
Sorry, I don’t understand the meaning of this sentence.
> Anyway, what about the prolem with boot
> screen? I think we just need to find the booting part of Windows because
> it boot in Windows boot screen, not in Grub.
Is openSUSE already installed?
Is your machine BIOS or UEFI? There are people in the forums with
expertise on booting problems, but not all of us understand UEFI well,
it is new.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
I see, so the cool stuff is bad.
I mean that the installer in Windows is the cool stuff, but you should not use it because it bad.
I was install it successfully without bugs, but when I try to play with the installer to see how “smart” it is, I delete the FAT partition by other OS’ liveCD, the installer doesn’t automatically unistall.
I use BIOS, old machine.
On 2014-03-22 17:26, ooker wrote:
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>> I see, so the cool stuff is bad.
> I mean that the installer in Windows is the cool stuff, but you should
> not use it because it bad.
Well, it is not even documented, nobody here uses it (I think I used
that one or its predecessor once in 1998, and that was it), so nobody
here can help you with it.
It maybe cool. I have no idea if it is good or bad. We simply can not
help with it, sorry.
> I was install it successfully without bugs, but when I try to play with
> the installer to see how “smart” it is, I delete the FAT partition by
> other OS’ liveCD, the installer doesn’t automatically unistall.
>
> I use BIOS, old machine.
If by “the installer” you refer to the windows program to start the
installation, I have no idea how to remove it from Windows, if the
program was installed on Windows. I thought that the idea is to run it
from the DVD/USB stick, not to install it in Windows. I see no point in
installing it in Windows at all, but maybe I’m mistaken.
I can not comment on what it does or does not do, if it breaks or if it
works correctly, in Windows. You see, I do not use Windows
We can help you with installing Linux (without using that Windows app at
all for anything whatsoever), or repairing your Linux system. For this,
you need an openSUSE install media.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
As best I can tell, you have an unwanted entry in the Windows boot manager.
Does the file “boot.ini” exist in the “C:” directory when running Windows? It is possibly a hidden file, so use
DIR \ /a
to list it. Or, for Windows 7 or Vista, there might be a bad entry that needs to be removed using the BCDEDIT command.
There is no boot.ini, only bootmgr, BOOTNXT, BOOTSECT.BAK and the command dir is not found.
In Windows go to run (or in win vista and up type msconfig in de searchbox) type msconfig then boot tab, there you can delete boot entries.
If you wanted to try opensuse out in Windows before committing to repartitioning your hard-drive you could try virtualisation software such as Virtualbox which will allow you to virtualise Linux or indeed another vertion of windows. Check out: https://www.virtualbox.org/
I found the solution. Install EasyBCD then you can remove it. Thank for your help.