opensuse is unusable

I started using opensuse with version 10.2, it was a perfect distro.
Last year i could not install opensuse 12.2. Install ends at 90 %, cannot add install source!
Other installs the ati card fails.
i am sorry, but i am tired of this basic shortcommings, just test the media before releasing it.
Now using ubuntu and windows 7, but i would like to go home to opensuse.

Greetings Rigo.

Hello,

I am glad you enjoy using openSUSE and I am sorry that you have been having troubles. Have you tried verifying the checksum of your installation media before attempting the install? For the ati problem you might give us more specific insight on your situation. I advise that you create a thread for each seperate issue since their answers are probably not related to the same problem. I hope you can figure things out!

This is posted in the Dutch forums, but it is in English. Thus it will be moved to the English part of the forums at Install/Boot/Login.

CLOSED for the moment.

Rereading this now for it’s contents and not for the language, this does not contain any technical question but it is only a bit of a rant. Thus it will be moved to Soapbox.

Moved from Nederlands > Help en helpen, open again.

Sorry for my not so polite thread.
Nightwishfan was right, the install DVD was corrupt. A rewritable disk is not good enough. I burned a normal DVD, that worked. (Unetbootin from usb also doesn’t work).
Then when i wanted to update the ati driver, i got a fallback 2D gnome3 desktop. No luck with aticonfig tool. And some 3 other ati updates went wrong.
Finally with the help of : " http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/SUSE/openSUSE" i installed the amd driver, and gnome3 is 3D now, and looking good.
Sorry to start a thread on the Dutch-forum in Enlish, next time i think first, and give technical info.
But i remember the forum, thanks for the quick help Nightwishfan, and Henk sorry voor de het engels op het Nederlandse forum, je kan deze treath wat mij betreft verwijderen straks.
Ik ben al weer positiever over openSUSE, en bij problemen kan ik gewoon hulp vragen (in het Nederlands).

Time to buy an nVidia :slight_smile:

+1 …

Have you tried atiupgradescript from pta repo. It works good for me but you need to have a bootable situation first and then ad the repo and run the script.

Yust tried the new 12.3, it is far more worse with ati radeon 6570 card. Yast install starts in text-mode. Wiith no acpi got graphic install, but no graphical desktop. Only text mode. No way to run atiupgrade.
!2.2 i could (with a lot of trouble) install, 12.3 i cannot, thats no progress. Do they test with only Nvida cards?
The develloppers should focus on easy install, then people how use windows can be attracted to opensuse.
You have lost me for now, or someone should have a sollution for install with ati- radeon-cards.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:06:01 +0000, knorretje wrote:

> No way to run atiupgrade.
> !2.2 i could (with a lot of trouble) install, 12.3 i cannot, thats no
> progress. Do they test with only Nvida cards?

“We” (as in “all of us”) are “they” - the betas are public so testing can
be done by those who use it.

When you say you can’t run atiupgrade, it’s not clear what you mean. If
you get a text setup, you should certainly be able to run the commands
necessary to run the ATI installer and install the proper fglrx drivers.

Since this is the soapbox, I’m going to suggest that you start a thread
in one of the support forums and spell out your system’s configuration so
you can get some help.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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sorry to read of your difficulty. I recommend you write a bug report on your problems.

The SuSE-GmbH and and openSUSE community contribution packagers do exactly that. But they work with upstream components which may be in varying states of functionality.

The testing to a large extent is up to users like you. And like me.

Currently I have 12.3 running on three PCs, all with different graphic hardware:

  • Dell Studio 1537 laptop with radeon HD3450 graphics. The radeon driver works well on this. The proprietary AMD driver does not due to no fault of SuSE-GmH nor the community. AMD have not updated their driver to work with the latest version of X (nor for this older hardware are they likely to).
  • my Sandbox PC, and ancient athlon-1150 with equally ancient nVidia FX5200 graphic hardware. I installed here in a test partition. Initially neither the nouveau nor proprietary driver would work due to the 3.7.x kernel, where surfing proved to me this was a problem with ALL GNU/Linu distributions and NOT just openSUSE. I discovered a patch for the proprietary nVidia driver which I applied and the proprietary driver worked. I wrote openSUSE and upstream bug reports on the nouveau driver, and a few days ago a test kernel was posted in the openSUSE bug report
    which I tried and the nouveau driver works on that test kernel. .
    The above two are reasons WHY users stay with openSUSE.
    .
  • my main PC (Core i7 with nVida GeForce GTX260 graphics) in a test partition. The nouveau driver works amazingly well. I have not tried the proprietary driver yet on this test partition. In fact my main partition on this PC is running openSUSE-12.1 and I’ll likely move it to openSUSE-12.2 in the next couple of months. Overall I am very happy with openSUSE on this PC.

I’ve been a GNU/Linux user since 1998, and a SuSE-Pro and more recent openSUSE user since 2001 and my experience is this is a good distribution. The best way to get the most out of it is to contribute.

Good luck in sorting your issues and please make note of my bug report recommendation. Enlisting the experts to help, via that mechanism, is one of the best ways to move forward in problems that are not only openSUSE but are also GNU/Linux wide.

I did not use openSUSE for a while after my install problems, but did not like other Linux distributions i tried, so wanted to return.
Tried to install again, first i had 12.2 running, which is also good and still very usable like oldcpu said in another post.
Later i finally installed 12.3 also.
First i only got a black sreen and a terminal login as root like before. I changed the install settings, and used screen size 764x1024, safe kernel-settings, and wrote as install option : brokenmodules=radeon. (is in the install notes).
Don´t know if this is correct,but i logged in with the second advanced option and after configuration i got a desktop. Then i used the radeon gpu hd5xxx or higer one-click installer and rebooted.
Everything looks very polished and nice. (KDE4 desktop).
Later i will try the 13.1 Beta or RC1, and maybe i can help testing, They like Hendersj told me are all the users including me.
So, openSUSE IS usable! Thanks for all the advices.

Rigo.

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:36:02 +0000, knorretje wrote:

> So, openSUSE IS usable! Thanks for all the advices.

Glad we were able to help out. :slight_smile:

Have a lot of fun! :wink:

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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