openSUSE 42.2 KDE final: Utter garbage worse than beta!

Oh man I dont know what the heck went wrong with openSUSE since 42.2 RC 1 and now but its official: the final is worse than a beta!
Look its not like I enjoy doing this to openSUSE but 42.2 is yet another bitter failure.
1: The feature I wanted, the ability to install third party RPM’s without much hassle? Gone, in RC 1 I was able to install chrome my main browser with ease.
But in final nope total failure! So much for easily installing google chrome again!
2: Its the slowest linux distro! I dont know why openSUSE is so slow to boot, and I am using a SSD for petes sake and its the only distro where Microsoft windows is faster to load!
Manjaro boots in under five seconds, Windows boots in under 8 seconds, openSUSE takes 15 seconds! Even with BTRFS and clean install conditions openSUSE boots slower then any other distro:
Arch, Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Mageia, Manjaro, Solus, Fedora and evvery other distro not named openSUSE can boot in under 5 seconds!
3: its buggy as all heck! This here is my biggest issue, I have had many endless crashes under openSUSE 42.2 with KDE.
And its not KDE, Manjaro is fine with KDE as is Maui linux.
KDE 5.8.3 is wonderful on even a Ubuntu based distro in Maui! How can openSUSE mess this one up so bad!
I actually had a better experience under beta 3 as at least that was a beta and you expect bugs in beta.
But not in a supposedly final release this distro is total garbage.
openSUSE for me needs to seriously consider what it is going to do, as so far this experiment of merging suse enterprise with openSUSE is a total utter failure.
Sigh and I had high hopes too, see you in another year I guess.

As the last time we had a new release and you had a series of complaints,
provide some specifics, report bugs, and help the project improve.

Just firing off a bunch of complaints and then saying “see ya next year!”
doesn’t help the project, and borders on trolling here.

Using a Linux distribution, as you well know, isn’t a passive activity.
Ranting about how much it sucks doesn’t get stuff fixed.


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I’m not much of a contributor, but I read a lot. I have to say that a lot of your posts that I’ve read are filled with complaints and moaning instead of useful, constructive exploration and project building. Such negativity…constantly. Just an observation. :bad: I would think that if it weren’t for SUSE Enterprise, openSUSE funding would dry up quickly and if it weren’t for openSUSE, SUSE Enterprise wouldn’t be half as good as it is. They need to be tied together.


If you don’t like it then don’t use it. Stop ranting if you’re not helping rotfl!

Borders on … ???

Seems to me this member hits the trolling bulls eye dead-on most of the time.:\

And what am I supposed to use a system that doesnt work for me?
If i wanted to do that i would use windows all the time.

And i dont.

Not sure, bit like a deflated tire, you change it, which at this point I think some of the forum users are suggesting you do…

No, use what does work for you and quit trolling. You posts are not constructive in any way.

It seems you have already mentioned your solution in the name/s of other distro’s you have running.
Your OP is contrary to everything I have experienced and lacking in any intellectual or constructive information.

The great difference is that with Windows you can’t fix things unless you get a job there as a software engineer. With openSUSE you can greatly influence what will get fixed and you can even do it yourself.
Of course not everyone wants/knows how to do this and in that case the best solution is to use whatever works best for you.

Well that’s a complete lie.

Like most of what you wrote, come to think of it.

On 2016-11-17, MadmanRB <> wrote:
> And what am I supposed to use a system that doesnt work for me?
> If i wanted to do that i would use windows all the time.

GNU/Linux (including openSUSE) isn’t free; you pay for the investment with time.

My first impressions of Leap 42.1 were terrible. It was buggy and I was unwilling to install it on mission-critical
systems. After a couple of weeks the problems started becoming resolved as updates corrected issues.

Seriously, installing a new free' GNU/Linux distribution on the first week of release not expecting any issues whatsoever is just plain naive. After installing Leap 42.1, I posted my individual issues to the forum and those more conversant with such issues in openSUSE were only too eager to help. Things don't just resolve themselves but require active participation from GNU/Linux users to highlight issues that really do feedback to the community and developers. To dismiss the whole effort as utter garbage’, just because things didn’t work as you expected, is somewhat childish.

I will soon install 42.2 and feedback what contribution I can. In particular I’m looking forward to seeing the first
Leap update on one my machines (42.1->42.2) for the first time and to see if it runs as smoothly as similar updates in
the pre-Leap era.

The thing is if i wanted to fix every issue I would use archlinux not something that is targeted at intermediate users and to a point new users.
Why should I try to fix things that should not be broken, thats a developers job.You guys have fun with this distro, I have given up hope on it.

But I thought you said Arch was better… no reply required.

Enjoy your new adventures, don’t errrr trip? Yes! that’s it, don’t ‘trip’ on the Chameleon tail on the way out… and remember to have a lot of fun :slight_smile:


Regarding the boot time it’s super easy to check why thanks to systemd. Just get the following output from both OS’es and compare :

root@dell:~/Downloads# systemd-analyze blame
          6.920s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          4.589s apt-daily.service
          2.222s networking.service
          1.461s plymouth-start.service
          1.046s systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
           777ms grub-common.service
           754ms irqbalance.service
           748ms speech-dispatcher.service
           747ms ondemand.service
           482ms apport.service
           448ms lightdm.service
           396ms upower.service
           356ms dev-sda5.device
           335ms thermald.service
           315ms avahi-daemon.service
           287ms gpu-manager.service
           286ms lm-sensors.service
           273ms pppd-dns.service
           272ms rsyslog.service
           245ms systemd-rfkill.service
           231ms setvtrgb.service
           113ms ModemManager.service
           109ms accounts-daemon.service
            87ms apparmor.service
            64ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
            64ms systemd-logind.service
            62ms snapd.firstboot.service
            56ms console-setup.service
            50ms bluetooth.service
            40ms binfmt-support.service
            37ms polkitd.service
            36ms keyboard-setup.service
            32ms systemd-journald.service
            30ms systemd-journal-flush.service

And then simply turn of the services that you are not using. For example to disable bluetooth :

root@dell:~/Downloads# systemctl disable bluetooth
Synchronizing state of bluetooth.service with SysV init with /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install...
Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install disable bluetooth
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `bluetooth' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `bluetooth' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Removed symlink /etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.bluez.service.


Updated one and a fresh install on another PC to 42.2.

I had some problem whit (digikam and SQL server etc). Ok. Final 42.2 is slow on boot. It was faster on betas/RC’s. Even on SDD’s. My comment is after a couple of reboots its is a ok, Problems with KDE/Plasma dual monitors is ok. Best luck to you and your future Linux flavor.


Don’t you think the op does this periodically on purpose to start some sort of outcry of indignation?
Maybe, if we just ignored these posts he’d get bored with it.
And by the way, I’m really impressed with how well 42.2 runs for me.

(Waving as you leave) Bye! Don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out!

… it is not always easy to ignore mosquitoes. Ask any Manitoban or Cdn!

No I think it’s a valid user info. It’s always useful to know how an average user feels about your distro and what gives him/her headaches.
You know then what needs to improve.