OpenSUSE 13.2 Kdenlive

Hello to all of you in the community,

I have a question, i’m using 13.2 RC1 and i installed Kdenlive (0.9.10) but every video i add to make new project, it gives me an error: “The ‘clip’ is not supported, it will be removed”.

When i first opened kdenlive, two supposed supports were missing. FFmpeg and avformat. But i have them installed, unless they’re not the right ones…

Any guesses or it will only work in Final Release?

Thanks in advance.

You need libmlt (and libmlt6-modules in particular) from the Packman repo, built against ffmpeg.

The repo does not exist yet for 13.2, but yes it should be there for the final release.

Btw, where did you install ffmpeg/libavformat from?

It’s curious because when i add repos “from the comunity” they are already there but they don’t work :slight_smile:

I installed them from a ‘factory’ repo i found here in the forum to add codecs to vlc.
Normally i do that from the packman repo after final release, but after adding that one it was available and installed :sarcastic:

I’m not at home so i can’t give you the actual repo.
Thing is the repo from VLC in they’r website, “vlc-codecs” does not work.

Yes. The list exists, but not all repos do yet.

One exception I know of (I haven’t checked the others): [noparse]KDE:Extra[/noparse] does exist for 13.2 already. But especially in this case it might cause problems, as 13.2 has KDE 4.14.2, whereas your 13.2 RC1 still has 4.14.1 (this causes a crash in digikam with certain files e.g.).

According to plan, 13.2 final should be in the repos some time today.
It might still take some time until all the repos in the community list are available for 13.2 though. (the public release is on Nov. 4th)

I installed them from a ‘factory’ repo i found here in the forum to add codecs to vlc.
Normally i do that from the packman repo after final release, but after adding that one it was available and installed :sarcastic:

Packman Factory?
That should work as well in the mean time. Current Factory is not much different to 13.2 RC1 at the moment, it was last published on Oct. 11th.

But don’t forget to switch to the 13.2 repo when it is available.
AFAIK they already build packages for 13.2, they are just not published yet.

I’m not at home so i can’t give you the actual repo.
Thing is the repo from VLC in they’r website, “vlc-codecs” does not work.

kdenlive does not use VLC or “vlc-codecs”. It only uses melt/libmlt, which uses ffmpeg’s libraries directly if built with ffmpeg support.
So, again, you need a libmlt with ffmpeg support, which is only available from Packman AFAIK.

And you should never use both Packman and the VLC repo. This might (and very likely will) break your multimedia stuff (including vlc-codecs), as they contain the same libraries in different versions.

Yap KDE:Extras works, some apps i installed from it.

You mean 13.2 final will be available today or some more repos?

I don’t think it was Packman Factory, i don’t remember. I can only check when i get home.
I’m “playing” with this RC and using BtrFs to see if it works well, but yes i’ll use the right repos from 13.2.

I never used two repos at the same time for VLC, i tried both to see witch one works better. And yes Kdenlive does not use VLC or vlc-codecs, but when using the factory repo it made an automatic change in the instalation cause i remembered them marked to install.

We have the Pre-release/Beta forum for that.

13.2 final, according to the schedule:

2014-10-30: 13.2 Gold Master

(openSUSE:Roadmap - openSUSE Wiki)
But there might be a delay of course.

It is up to each repo’s maintainers, if/when they enable it for any specific openSUSE version.
When 13.1 was released, Packman enabled their repo with the GM I think. (I’m not completely sure, but it definitely was before the public release)

I don’t think it was Packman Factory, i don’t remember. I can only check when i get home.

If it wasn’t Packman, then it must have been the VLC/VideoLAN repo. But that doesn’t contain libmlt, only the stuff needed for VLC.

I never used two repos at the same time for VLC, i tried both to see witch one works better. And yes Kdenlive does not use VLC or vlc-codecs, but when using the factory repo it made an automatic change in the instalation cause i remembered them marked to install.

If you add Packman, vlc-codecs will not get installed automatically. So you probably did use the VLC repo there (I’m not aware of any other that has vlc-codecs).
This doesn’t help at all with kdenlive of course, as already explained.

Ok, so here is the repo i found and used to get some codecs for VLC: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/factory/
I think that from this one, ffmpeg got available too.

Edit: Searched for libmlt and libmlt6-modules i they are installed… perhaps from this repo too…

It’s been a long time since I used it, but kdenlive.org used to have a build script that builds everything in a directory in your “home” directory. I haven’t checked to see if they still offer that, but it’s worth a look. When I used it way back in time, it compiled “local” builds of ffmpeg, mlt, and whatever else it needed. I “killed” something (I forget what) so had to do this to get kdenlive working again.

Here’s the link to the build script

http://www.mltframework.org/bin/view/MLT/BuildScripts

It’s been a long time since I used it, so I doubt I’ll be much help if you need it . . .

Yes, that’s Packman for Factory.

Edit: Searched for libmlt and libmlt6-modules i they are installed… perhaps from this repo too…[/QUOTE]
“Perhaps” doesn’t help.

Try to do a “full repository vendor change update” to that repo:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Vendor_change_update#Full_repository_Vendor_change

Then it should work, unless Factory and 13.2 RC1 are not compatible enough.

I’ll try an do that.
In the mean time Golden Master is late. At least from the roadmap it’s still RC.

GM has been released today.

But a new Factory snapshot has been published as well, so they might even be more incompatible already.
And Packman is not available for 13.2 yet unfortunately.

Thanks for your answers, just did a fresh install of Final, but since BETA it was always very stable.

Just in case you haven’t noticed yet, Packman is available for 13.2 since two days ago.

And kdenlive seems to work fine here with full codec support. :wink:

Yep, already noticed :slight_smile:

Edited some videos already lol!

I have the same problem . . I installed kdenlive in 13.2 64bit I have installed ffmpeg . When I start kdenlive and the the Checking MLT engine every thing passes but AvFormat module (FFmpeg) . But is I go to the last part where it checking system it shows FFmpeg &ffplay is installed . Dose anyone know how to fix it ?

Did you actually read the thread you are appending to?
The answer is there, in the first reply:
you need libmlt6 (and libmlt6-modules in particular) from Packman for ffmpeg/avformat support.

So add the Packman repo if you haven’t done so already (you’ll need it for most multimedia stuff anyway):
YaST->Software Repositories->Add->Community Repositories

Then do a “full repository vendor change update” to Packman:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Vendor_change_update#Full_repository_Vendor_change
This should update you to the correct libmlt, and will also switch other packages to full multimedia-enabled versions. (Note that you would still need to install “vlc-codecs” manually for VLC to fully work)