Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

Hi All,

I just installed opensuse 13.1 to a brand new hard-drive on a dell precision 380. OS 13.1 boots to the desktop after login, but the problems start from there:

  • Networking is not active
  • There are no icons on the panel, if I move the mouse pointer to where the menu icon should be and click, the kickoff menu sort of paints itself on-the-fly as I move the mouse up or down. I am assuming this is a graphics driver problem, this dell has a NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1), which is a bit old but works perfectly with opensuse 12.3 using the nouveau driver. As I don’t have networking up and can’t start apper, I can’t install the nvidia driver??
  • The icons on the folder view widget are ok and the desktop widget menu at the top of the screen also works properly.

Any ideas how I can get the graphics fixed for 13.1? Opensuse 12.3 was and is brilliant, as I installed 13.1 to a new drive I still have 12.3 as a backup system.

Cheers for any help in advance.

On 2013-11-19 16:56, londondaveuk wrote:

> - Networking is not active

Please expand on that.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

As Carlos wrote already, you should provide more information.
Are you trying to use wired or wireless?
Did it work on 12.3 or did you have to install an additional driver or firmware?
What network card?
Are you using ifup or NetworkManager? Have you tried switching between them?
Is your card shown in YaST, can you configure it there?

And there’s a section in the release notes regarding network, maybe it helps:

4.3. Duplicated Network Interfaces

The current version of systemd uses a new convention for assigning
predictable names to network interfaces. YaST is changed accordingly.


Some reports indicate a bug in YaST when conversion from one naming scheme
to another takes place. If the same network interface has two different
names, you have been hit by this bug. In this case remove the different
network interfaces in /etc/sysconfig/network and use YaST to configure the
network anew.


For more information about predictable network interface names, see http://
www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
.

  • There are no icons on the panel, if I move the mouse pointer to where the menu icon should be and click, the kickoff menu sort of paints itself on-the-fly as I move the mouse up or down. I am assuming this is a graphics driver problem, this dell has a NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1), which is a bit old but works perfectly with opensuse 12.3 using the nouveau driver. As I don’t have networking up and can’t start apper, I can’t install the nvidia driver??
  • The icons on the folder view widget are ok and the desktop widget menu at the top of the screen also works properly.

Any ideas how I can get the graphics fixed for 13.1? Opensuse 12.3 was and is brilliant, as I installed 13.1 to a new drive I still have 12.3 as a backup system.

Apparently this is a graphics driver issue.
I would suggest to install the proprietary nvidia driver, but there are no RPMs available yet for 13.1.

Try booting with “nomodeset” or select “Recovery Mode” under Advanced Options.
Try disabling “Desktop Effects” (Shift+Alt+F12 or in “Configure Desktop”).
Or try switching the “Composite type” to XRender.

Hi and thanks for the replies.

I am using wired networking, my NIC is a Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10). With 12.3 I went over to Network Manager service after reading this article:

10 things to do after installing openSUSE 12.3 - Muktware

After that networking worked perfectly in 12.3 and I didn’t have to install any other drivers. I tried changing over to the Network Manager in OS 13.1 from a console using the commands given in the article above, but that failed.

I am going to try the graphics tips you suggested at the login screen, but I can’t get any desktop applications to work properly so I can adjust the default graphics settings - the desktop is unusable. Until I can install nvidia driver or fix the present graphics issue I am stuck with the command line in 13.1.

I recently installed the latest ubuntu distro on this Dell, to test out the new hard-drive, and didn’t have any graphics problems.

Those instructions don’t really apply anymore for 13.1. They were needed to work around a bug in the installation.
You can just as well use YaST->Network->Network Settings to switch between NetworkManager and ifup (Global Options tab).
But if you only have the one wired connection, you might just as well use ifup.

I am going to try the graphics tips you suggested at the login screen, but I can’t get any desktop applications to work properly so I can adjust the default graphics settings - the desktop is unusable. Until I can install nvidia driver or fix the present graphics issue I am stuck with the command line in 13.1.

Have you tried to press “Alt+Shift+F12”? That should turn off Desktop Effects.
And as already mentioned, try to boot to “Recovery Mode” (“Advanced Options” in the boot menu).

I recently installed the latest ubuntu distro on this Dell, to test out the new hard-drive, and didn’t have any graphics problems.

Well, different distributions contain different versions of the kernel and graphics stack/drivers.
And especially nouveau is problematic since ever. But hopefully the situation will improve in the future, because NVIDIA recently announced that they finally are going to support nouveau’s development.

This is a good description of the problems I encountered while installing RC2. I can’t help you with networking, because after a while and with an intervention in fstab that seemingly was unrelated and a reboot connection suddenly came back up, but I solved the problem with KDE by going to a terminal [crtl][alt][F1] and entering
kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false
kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key CheckIsSafe true
kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key OpenGLIsUnsafe false

It isn’t pretty, but starting in Recovery mode didn’t help me.

Maybe networking problem is related to paragraph 2.2 of “Releases Notes” ?

2.2. No Network after Installation

CHECKIT:12.3

Directly after installation, NetworkManager is not started automatically and thus WiFi cannot be configured. To enable networking (WiFi), reboot the machine once manually.

https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/openSUSE/13.1/

Thanks for the kwriteconfig lines jdeca57, that solved the graphics problem and my opensuse 13.1 desktop is now working fine, although I have no idea what the lines in kwinrc do.

Yast worked fine for solving the networking glitch wafi323, I just changed over to Network Manager and that sorted out the internet connection immediately.

Thanks again to everyone that replied - I can’t see how I edit my thread title to ‘solved’ or I would mark it as such.

No.
That paragraph is from the 12.3 release notes and does not apply to 13.1.

It has already been removed from the 13.1 release notes, but that page is not up-to-date yet.
Just look at the date. It says Oct. 17th.

The latest release notes update was today, but that specific paragraph already was removed a week ago.

After my first 13.1 install on my test machine the network manager icon near the clock (not sure whether it’s an applet/plasmoid/icon) was ready, and once I selected my wi-fi network and provided the password it connected fine. So confirm network issue from 12.3 is gone.

 I have the same problem, using intel quad core board, all other linux distros work fine.

don

Wolfi323

Apparently this is a graphics driver issue.
I would suggest to install the proprietary nvidia driver, but there are no RPMs available yet for 13.1.

Try booting with “nomodeset” or select “Recovery Mode” under Advanced Options.
Try disabling “Desktop Effects” (Shift+Alt+F12 or in “Configure Desktop”).
Or try switching the “Composite type” to XRender.

Thanks for this Wolfi, i had the same problem with KDE after new install but selecting ‘recovery mode’ at boot solved it KDE works fine now. Had nvidia driver issues with 12.2 and went back to nouveau which didn’t work much better and freezing was a big problem. The Nvidia driver that came with 13.1 seems to be much better.

Unless you install it NVIDIA does not come with the normal install.This is openSUSE only open software ships with it and NVIDIA is not open source.

I ran into the same thing. My Ethernet NIC card worked fine on Live DVD, but after the install of 13.1 (completely fresh install) the NIC was disabled by default. I was able to enable it by going through YAST.

Using an MSI FM2-A55M-E33 motherboard.

This is a serious problem for new users where they wouldn’t have a clue where to begin. See review on Distrowatch.com they had the same problem.

You’re right Gogalthorp, was sure i saw NVIDIA as driver in Open GL information after install but tonight had my first freeze with 13.1 so came back to forum saw your post, checked Kinfo and it says nouveau Gallium is driver. Tried the recommended NVIDIA while running 12.2 and it made very little difference to freezing, Nouveau actually seemed a bit better. Hoping nouveau gets support from nvidia soon, the beauty of 13.1 is well worth supporting imho:)

i had the same graphics problem after my initial install: video was completely hosed and the desktop/windows were flickering and would fade/reappear.

although you solved your problem, i will post my solution as well just in case someone else out there has the same issue.

here is my graphics card:
>lspci | grep NVIDIA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G71GL [Quadro FX 1500] (rev a1)

i built the kernel sources from scratch (but didnt install them), then after the kernel was done i downloaded the driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.88.run from nvidia.com and rebooted into runlevel3/text mode and ran the nvidia driver root. after that, everything was fine. suse musnt test with these quadro cards.

be aware that i did all of this while my desktop was hosed and the windows were burping and farting - get into runlevel3 first if you can.

andrew.

since this thread was revived by “aroutley” I will add my 2 cents as well.
just last week I rebuild my HP Pavilion dv6000 laptop (bought 4 years ago with Vista and am running WinXp 64bit on it currently) with OpenSuse 13.1 (have dropped in a small HDD for testing if all is well will rebuild it on a regular HDD)
I am currently building home file/vm server based on it and like it so much that want to move my laptop to opensuse 13.1

booted from LiveCD with same issues as OP, also the whole thing was painfully slow.
I have 4GB RAM and capable AMD quad core CPU. my XP was running better on it.
so figured since all was loaded into RAM maybe an install will run better, also why bother hunting drivers on LiveCD.

did the install, and rebooted.
Tip#1 : DO NOT USE LIVE CD TO DO INSTALL. you have no choice of desktop or anything useful.
I greatly prefer a DVD install (which I will do next just for fun)

a HDD install solved the speed issue as the laptop were responding much better running form HDD. still slow a bit but usable. I think if I load the light desktop like LSDX it will be much better. I do not really need all the bells in full KDE.

the network was disabled on start up had to load yast and fiddle with settings to make it run.
the best option if you can, flip the mode to use network manger and DHCP first so you have the internet.
do all the updates, this is another point for using the DVD instead of LiveCD as a lot less updates to download.

Video was shot right from the beginning, had to navigate by touch sort of speak to open the browser. and terminal.
using lspci and kforce center to get the idea of what video card is in the machine and
just google the NVIDIA openSuse drivers and there is a page with one-click installs for several drivers. even though 13.1 is not one of the listed versions of OS and my specific card was not listed (truthfully I did not really get all the info for my hardware so I was not fully sure what video card I have) I was able to install a suitable driver using one-click option that made the display work very well.
once I had the video issue solved it took me 15 min to find solution for my wireless network card driver problem. so now I am fully confident I can rebuild the whole thing from DVD anytime.