OpenSUSE 13.1 Evergreen 64bit, KDE

Hello,

I haven’t posted here in a long time, I have been a great fan of OpenSUSE eversince I changed from Ubuntu,Linux Mint, and Debian. With my Lenovo T410S, there were some unresolved issues including graphics, wireless card and other hardware incompatibilities on OpenSUSE 13.2.

With OpenSUSE 13.1, I have not have any issues other than the fact that I installed it wrong a few times. Today, I fell from my bike and destroyed my Leonovo T410S, the 1.5" SSD was the only surviving component. My supervisor will be purchasing me a Lenovo T420, I appreciate it greatly.

The Lenovo T420 will be carrying a 128GB 2.5" SSD, which I can choose to clone the 1.5"SSD into, but I wish to switch back to OpenSUSE 13.1 with this opportunity. Also, I am expecting to run into dual-graphics card incompatibilities issues. It has a 1GB Nividia and intel integrated HD

I haven’t been too successful finding resources on how I’d activate evergreen, is there a compiled step-by-step instructions on activating evergreen for OpenSUSE 13.1?

Also, I am contemplating Tumbleweed edition. This will be my research/work laptop, I need this to be reliable as well as up to date.

In case I make additional inputs here for troubleshoots,
The specs should be:
Processor Intel Core i5-2540M Processor (2.60GHz, 3MB L3)
Display type 14.0 HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready
System graphics NVIDIA NVS 4200M Graphics with Optimus Technology, 1GB DDR3 Memory
Total memory 8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
128 Samsung SSD

Thank you for your time.

I haven’t been too successful finding resources on how I’d activate evergreen, is there a compiled step-by-step instructions on activating evergreen for OpenSUSE 13.1?

no just install 13.1, atm 13.1 is still supported as a regular release when 13.3 (Leap 42) comes out it will stop getting regular support and become the new evergreen, there is nothing to setup or to activate, evergreen is basically long term support (5+ years of security updates) compared to 16-18 months the regular versions get.

Also, I am contemplating Tumbleweed edition. This will be my research/work laptop, I need this to be reliable as well as up to date.

This is completely different, Tumbleweed is a rolling release always cutting edge always the newest bells and whistles, not recommended for a production machine as things tend to go boom with the newest toys.

System graphics NVIDIA NVS 4200M Graphics with Optimus Technology, 1GB DDR3 Memory

If you had an optimuis system before that was your problem, those optimus machines are a headache, you might be better off (and cheaper) without it, it’s meant as a power saving feature but it can be a hustle to setup, do not use the regular nvida drivers for it, see the nvidia bumblebee wiki for more info
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee

Hello,

thank you for the reply, my previous laptop, T410S was using integrated graphics. No Optimus. I will require some sort of graphics card that can support decent CAD operations, which T410S couldn’t.

Also, I’ve concluded the deal already. It’s up for my supervisor to pick it up now. I guess I’ll always have some hardware to battle with…

On 2015-08-20 00:36, SJLPHI wrote:
> I haven’t been too successful finding resources on how I’d activate
> evergreen, is there a compiled step-by-step instructions on activating
> evergreen for OpenSUSE 13.1?

Not till it is created, perhaps December or January.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

Thank you, I will keep you posted on my customization/modifications. I have made a LOT in the past, it’s been a while, so I will need to go through them again and I will troubleshoot to this thread.

My .bashrc /etc/default/grub were heavily modified as well as MANY KDE desktop environment options.

At this moment in time, there is no 13.1 Evergreen. Evergreen is still based on 11.4. Thus your thread title is a bit confusing.

Well, same problems that I ran into when I first moved to OpenSUSE. It’s been too long I can’t remember or re-find the solution, but I did find a solution at the end:

1.Konsole, I was able to put a background image and make that transparent. Now I have an option for transparent single colour or background image. What to do…
2. I cannot recall what the different type of taskbar that allowed me to close open application by middle clicking on the thumbnail.

I’ve been able to do 2. It was called smoothtasks.

  1. I can remember that the quick fix was disabling one desktop effect. I’m not sure which one.

Hello, so, how could I activate the latest Evergreen for 13.1?

there is nothing to activate 13.1 became evergreen when 11.4 died, the sad thing is (from what I’ve read) it will remain alive for something like 6 more months (or less)
I might be wrong but with the switch to the LEAP release model evergreen will be put to pasture together with 13.2, if I remember correctly 13.2 (and 13.1) will be put to pasture 2 months after 42.2 comes out in october or november, that means evergreen will die in january or febuary you might consider moving to LEAP, now to 42.1 or in november to 42.2.

I’ve decided to go unsupported on 13.1

I actually upgraded to 42.1 then decided to downgrade to 13.1 from 13.2.

If there is ONE thing I wish 13.1 fixed was Konsole being able to have a background picture + being transparent. Which is default Konsole, but it’s a bug that never got fixed. Other than that, 13.2 is unhappy with my laptop, and I am unhappy with LEAP 42.1

13.1 still has support for older hardware I run it on my old celeron with geforce 5, that graphic card was dropped by nvidia for 13.2 (the 3.11.x kernel)
unfortunetly the kde developers decided that kde4 is dead and they won’t do any work on it, all existing bugs will remain unfixed, and the 13.2’s life span is the same as 13.1, maybe something will change when 42.2 rols out and the evergreen team will decide to prolong the support (highly unlikely).
I know a lot of people don’t like plasma 5 but you can install all of kde 4 in LEAP and if your hardware supports it you should upgrade, I use both LEAP 42.1 with plasma 5.7 and 13.1 with kde 4.11.
this is the reason Evergrin will die in January
https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime

Each Leap Major Release (eg. 42.x) are expected to be supported for at least 36 months, until the next major version of Leap is available (eg. 43.0)

Each Leap Minor Release (eg. 42.1, 42.2, etc) are expected to be released annually, and users are expected to upgrade to the latest minor release within 6 months of its availability, leading to a support lifecycle of 18 months

I’m not sure I understand the first part, what is a major release is 42.1 a major release and 42.2 and 42.3 minor releases?
does that make 42.1 the next “evergreen” like version?

That’s more about the Xorg version, not the kernel.

You could patch the kernel module for newer kernels, that one is open source.

The 171.xx legacy driver (which has been completely dropped by nvidia years ago, not just “for 13.2”) that would support a GeForce5 doesn’t work with newer Xorg versions, so it’s not possible to offer it for 13.2 or newer.

I’m not sure I understand the first part, what is a major release is 42.1 a major release and 42.2 and 42.3 minor releases?
does that make 42.1 the next “evergreen” like version?

Leap 42 is the major release, and will be supported for ~36months. It has 42.1, 42.2, and 42.3 as minor releases, which are maintained for 18 months each, i.e. until 6 months after the previous release.
That’s marketing, the support period for one particular openSUSE release has actually been decreased.
Though the 42.x releases are not really full “upgrades” either, especially for the things coming from SUSE.

So there will be no more Evergreen like release (I do understand what you are saying but 11.4 was evergreen for a long time) and users will have to upgrade to each new leap minor version, this is similar to what SLE does with service packs where each new service pack is a new OS but without major leaps :wink:

Yes, at least not by the current Evergreen team.
If somebody steps up to create one (or to maintain 13.1 longer), there will be.

and users will have to upgrade to each new leap minor version, this is similar to what SLE does with service packs where each new service pack is a new OS but without major leaps :wink:

Exactly.
And Leap actually is based on the SLE service packs.
I.e. 42.1 is based on SLE12 SP1, 42.2 is based on SLE12 SP2, and so on.

Leap 43 will be based on SLE13.

PS, see also this mail on the openSUSE mailinglist today:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-09/msg00096.html

Leap 42.x was the first ‘major’ release of Leap, but as we were basing
it on SLE 12 SP1 and not SLE 12 GA we jumped directly to Leap 42.1 in
November 2015

Leap 43.0 will be the next major release of Leap.
It will be announced some time in the future, aligned to when SUSE
will announce SLE 13, which should provide the base for Leap 43.0

The exact overlap, how long 42.y (where .y is the last minor release
before 43.0) will be supported after the release of 43.0 is still to
be confirmed.
It will be at least 6 months after the release of 43.0, but I am
actively encoraging the consideration of a slightly longer cross-over
period between major Leap versions.