OpenSUSE 12.3 live desktop?

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#1

Hi, I’m unable to get into live desktop in OpenSUSE 12.3 both for preview purposes and for recovery purposes (plan on using it to copy files from one broken Windows install to another hard drive)

The options I see are:

Boot from hard drive
Installation
Rescue System
Check installation media (tried this, everything works fine)
Firmware test
Memory test

Where to next?

#2

So is it your intent to create a dual boot setup with Windows and openSUSE or just what end are you seeking to get to? It is best to know more about this computer setup and its hard disk. If you plan on a dual boot system, there must be free space for with to install openSUSE. Have you given that issue any thought?

Thank You,

#3

I have done Linux installs and dual boot installs before. This is just my first time to OpenSUSE. I have three hard drives, though I don’t plan on installing OpenSUSE to any of them. What I would like to do is view a live preview of OpenSUSE just to try it out. I would also like to use that live preview to copy files from my one hard drive (Windows on that drive BSODs) to another hard drive. I have Mint 2011-09 CD, perhaps it would be easier to use Mint rather than OpenSUSE for copying files off a Windows drive that won’t boot. What do you think?

I’m thinking about installing OpenSUSE to a 8GB or 32GB USB drive later on - though I suspect the 8GB drive may not be enough.

#4

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:16:03 +0000, Ae ed wrote:

> Hi, I’m unable to get into live desktop in OpenSUSE 12.3 both for
> preview purposes and for recovery purposes (plan on using it to copy
> files from one broken Windows install to another hard drive)

Tell us what you downloaded and a little bit about your hardware setup -
and what specific problems you have (“unable to get into a live desktop”
doesn’t really tell us anything specific).

Thanks,

Jim

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#5

> The options I see are:
>
> Boot from hard drive
> Installation
> Rescue System
> Check installation media (tried this, everything works fine)
> Firmware test
> Memory test
http://software.opensuse.org/
those above look like the options available on the DVD (like here:
http://tinyurl.com/3qde66h) and there is no menu option for a Live
session because the DVD has none…

instead the Live sessions are available for down load (with opening
screen menus like this: http://tinyurl.com/b856ekd) for KDE and GNOME
here: http://software.opensuse.org/

–
dd

#6

You’re kidding me. You have to download a separate iso just to view it live?

Anyway, I have a 5GB bandwidth cap so I guess that won’t be happening.

I downloaded the 64-bit version.
My hardware setup is:
Asus Z68
i5 2500K
4GB 1333Mhz Memory
256GB SSD
250GB HDD
1TB HDD
Radeon HD7770

Was testing it on a first-gen i3 though.

#7

DVD doesn’t do LIVE because it is packed with XFCE,LXDE,GNOME,KDE,E17 etc and can handle updates from previous version of openSUSE.
You should use either GNOME or KDE live ISO or use rescue CD to get a LIVE session (software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 12.3)

#8

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:06:01 +0000, Ae ed wrote:

> You’re kidding me. You have to download a separate iso just to view it
> live?

The live version has specific requirements and is built separately, yes.
That allows the install DVD to have more actual software packages on it.
Generally, installed RPMs take more space than they do when packaged, so
you get more software on the DVD than you do on a live media.

openSUSE has always been that way.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

#9

> You’re kidding me.

no, the download page lists three Live system downloads:

Live GNOME – A GNOME desktop you can run from DVD or from USB stick.
Live KDE – A KDE desktop you can run from DVD or from USB stick.
Rescue – Rescue system that you can run from CD or from USB stick.

and, one non-Live system:

4.7GB DVD – Contains a large collection of software for desktop or
server use. Suitable for installation or upgrade.

–
dd

#10

Well I booted from a Linux Mint (Debian Edition) DVD. It is roughly 1GB and contains BOTH the installer and live desktop.

Booted to live desktop.
Was instantly able to access my files on all 3 Windows hard drives. No “take ownership” rubbish. No command lines. No need to mount drives. It was smooth and perfect. I was able to backup all my files.
Tried playing a youtube vid in Firefox and an mp3 file. Worked 100%, the mp3 even sounded 3x better than it did on Windows 8 (Windows 8 apparently requires drivers to play nice sound, whereas Mint either had the necessary driver built-in, or was just awesome like that)

I downloaded OpenSUSE to test KDE. I was disappointed. Since downloading it I’ve read the forums a bit and I’ve seen a ton of threads reporting bugs and problems with even the stable releases. I’m guessing it won’t have propriety drivers and codecs either, meaning I’ll have to jump through a dozen hoops just to play mp3 files. I could be wrong - but I recently got the impression that most Linux distros don’t come with propriety codecs etc. I guess I’ll wait until May and download Mint KDE edition.

#11

On 04/14/2013 03:16 PM, Ae ed wrote:
> I guess I’ll wait until May and download
> Mint KDE edition.

that is fine with me, and i suspect also fine with most people here…

so, enjoy what works for you… i do!!

openSUSE is not for everyone…and, neither is Mint.

–
dd

#12

I just hope that OpenSUSE can be improved over time, so that everything is built into a single DVD. Drop Gnome, it’s virtually deprecated anyway, and use that space to make it into a live DVD.

Or at least drop Gnome for Mate or Cinnamon.

#13

This is the default Linux Mint Debian Samba smb.conf file which you could use in openSUSE if you like:

[global]
   dns proxy = no
   log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
   max log size = 1000
   syslog = 0
   panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
   encrypt passwords = true
   passdb backend = tdbsam
   obey pam restrictions = yes
   unix password sync = yes
   passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
   passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n
 *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n
 *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
   pam password change = yes
   map to guest = bad user
   usershare allow guests = yes

[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   browseable = no
   read only = yes
   create mask = 0700
   directory mask = 0700
   valid users = %S

[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   browseable = no
   path = /var/spool/samba
   printable = yes
   guest ok = no
   read only = yes
   create mask = 0700

[print$]
   comment = Printer Drivers
   path = /var/lib/samba/printers
   browseable = yes
   read only = yes
   guest ok = no

You just need to start the smb and nmb services, not activated in openSUSE by default because not everyone uses Windows file sharing. For more help with using Samba, have a look here: S.A.C.T. - Samba Automated Configuration Tool - Version 1.03 - Blogs - openSUSE Forums

Thank You,

#14

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:56:03 +0000, Ae ed wrote:

> Drop Gnome, it’s virtually deprecated anyway, and use that space to make
> it into a live DVD.

Well, no, GNOME isn’t “virtually deprecated anyway” - just because you
don’t use/like it doesn’t mean it’s not used/liked.

But if you want a bootable/installable LiveDVD, download the KDE LiveDVD
image - you can do a fresh install from it.

Jim

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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

#15

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:16:01 +0000, Ae ed wrote:

> Since downloading it I’ve read the forums a bit and I’ve seen a ton of
> threads reporting bugs and problems with even the stable releases.

People don’t generally come to support forums to say “everything’s
wonderful”, so the number of posts of people having problems is not
reflective of the number of people using it without problems.

> I’m
> guessing it won’t have propriety drivers and codecs either, meaning I’ll
> have to jump through a dozen hoops just to play mp3 files. I could be
> wrong - but I recently got the impression that most Linux distros don’t
> come with propriety codecs etc.

Most distributions do not come with proprietary codecs because of
licensing issues. openSUSE comes with Fluendo (which SUSE pays the
license for), and you can install OSS versions of the proprietary codecs
from Packman (and bear the legal risk of using those codecs yourself -
which is why they’re not included on the ISO nor in a repository hosted
in the US).

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C