openSUSE 12.2 Milestone 1

We all know that today is the day of the first openSUSE 12.2 Milestone. After visiting Index of /factory/iso i found ISOs for live KDE and Gnome (build-0148) plus a net-install image (build-0147). I have booted both, 32 bit isos for KDE and Gnome and only Gnome worked for me under Virtual Box. The strange think, for me at least, is that after running cat /etc/suse-release the output was: openSUSE 12.2 Milestone 0 (i586). Personally i guess that M 1 images will arrive later this day.

Untill M 1 pops up, i would like to say congrats to the Gnome team for their start :slight_smile:

In directory Index of /factory/iso/12.1, there is gnome build 1 and 2 now, but what i am waiting for is kde. So maybe after i wake up tomorrow morning there is my hope.

On 02/09/2012 07:56 AM, JeromeCui wrote:
>
> creatura85;2438811 Wrote:
>> We all know that today is the day of the first openSUSE 12.2 Milestone.
>> After visiting ‘Index of /factory/iso’
>> (http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/) i found ISO`s for live KDE

and Gnome (build-0148) plus a net-install image (build-0147).
I have booted both, 32 bit isos for KDE and Gnome and only Gnome >> worked for me under Virtual Box. The strange think, for me at least, is >> that after running cat /etc/suse-release the output was: openSUSE 12.2 >> Milestone 0 (i586). Personally i guess that M 1 images will arrive later >> this day. >> >> Untill M 1 pops up, i would like to say congrat`s to the Gnome team
>> for their start :slight_smile:
>
> In directory ‘Index of /factory/iso/12.1’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/12.1/), there is gnome build 1
> and 2 now, but what i am waiting for is kde. So maybe after i wake up
> tomorrow morning there is my hope.

On the Factory ML, coolo (the release manager) posted the following

Hi,

We still have issues that need to be sorted out before I want to release
Milestone 1:

  • network installations do not work without major annoyance due to
    changed checksum format
  • live cds won’t boot

I hope we can get them in today though.

Greetings, Stephan

creatura85 wrote:
>
> We all know that today is the day of the first openSUSE 12.2 Milestone.
> After visiting ‘Index of /factory/iso’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/) i found ISO`s for live KDE

and Gnome (build-0148) plus a net-install image (build-0147).
I have booted both, 32 bit isos for KDE and Gnome and only Gnome > worked for me under Virtual Box. The strange think, for me at least, is > that after running cat /etc/suse-release the output was: openSUSE 12.2 > Milestone 0 (i586). Personally i guess that M 1 images will arrive later > this day. > > Untill M 1 pops up, i would like to say congrat`s to the Gnome team
> for their start :slight_smile:
>
>
I keep recommending to subscribe to the factory mailing list.
That’s the direct channel to get updated about the development and the
only way to reach the devs.

Reaching the devs is essential in discussing your possible findings and
get them sorted.

Nothing can be done here.

Vahis

http://waxborg.servepics.com
openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) 2.6.37.6-0.11-default main host
openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) 3.2.4-6-desktop Tumbleweed in VirtualBox
openSUSE 12.1 (i586) 3.1.9-1.4-desktop in EeePC 900

On 02/09/2012 06:11 PM, Vahis wrote:

> Nothing can be done here.

+1


DD
Read what Distro Watch writes: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW

Indeed, perfection needs time :smiley:

On 02/09/2012 10:06 PM, creatura85 wrote:

> Indeed, perfection needs time

yes…more time than exists…

which of these are you saying:

  1. openSUSE 12.2 MS 1 will be perfect
    or
  2. openSUSE 12.2 MS 1 will never be released


DD
Read what Distro Watch writes: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW

I don`t understand the question and options, sorry.

Posted today on the Factory Mailing List by Coolo:

Hi,

There have been enough weeks without another release,
so I started now with uploading Milestone1 of 12.2
(build151)

The main purpose of this release is to find all the
places that need to be changed from 12.1 to 12.2 - the
branding already made a great start. Milestone1 sure
looks great - and different to 12.1 already at this
early stage. Great work, artwork team.

Greetings, Stephan

Great !

Please, a dumb question on my part. These build 151 liveCDs appear too large for a CD. Are they intended to be burned on a DVD ?

I downloaded the 12.2 NET Install Build 151, and the 12.2 KDE Live CD Build 151,
and installed each of them in VirtualBox virtual machines. The NET install was
also for KDE. Problems are minimal:

(1) There is a bad checksum reported for the NET install. It can be ignored.
(2) The standard repository setup has all of the 12.1 repos enabled and with the
refresh bit set.
(3) Starting YaST Software Management takes a long time to refresh repos due to
the previous condition, and it generates an error screen that says that “valid
metadata not found”. This message can be ignored.
(4) Running YaST Software Management automatically installs the flash-player and
gstreamer-0_10-fluendo-mp3 packages.

I ran the following tests with success:

(1) Installed network printer.
(2) Connected to wireless networks encrypted with WEP, WPA, and WPA2 using
NetworkManager and the plasmoid applet.
(3) Connected to an NFS volume exported by my server

Larry

build 151 kde works with dd_rescue. I don’t know about a DVD I tried a studio build on a DVD and it didn’t work It was in the 830 M range.

On 02/10/2012 07:36 PM, dale14846 wrote:
>
> oldcpu;2439305 Wrote:
>> Great !
>>
>> Please, a dumb question on my part. These build 151 liveCDs appear too
>> large for a CD. Are they intended to be burned on a DVD ?
> build 151 kde works with dd_rescue. I don’t know about a DVD I tried a
> studio build on a DVD and it didn’t work It was in the 830 M range.

For my tests on VMs, I never burn a CD and just attach to the iso as a virtual
CD. If your box can boot from USB, then use imagewriter to burn the iso onto a
USB thumb drive.

Good day, in the past days i have tested under VBox the live cd`s of KDE and Gnome build 148 and found that only the Gnome live CD worked; by worked i mean booting, loading the desktop, running Firefox, adjusting sound settings and of course shutdown. The KDE live image did booted but failed to load the desktop.

In this morning i have downloaded and tested the same live images but from build 152. The Gnome live image this time failed to load, with the message “Gnome has crashed, sorry…” The KDE image on the other hand works for me but after 10 minutes of waiting for it to load. To make it run much better i have disabled the desktop effects and nepomuk indexers but still is slow. Later on i will try a net install and see how it goes.

linux@linux:~> uname -a
Linux linux.site 3.2.0-2-default #1 SMP Wed Jan 25 10:51:08 UTC 2012 (2206a5c) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

linux@linux:~> cat /etc/SuSE-release 
openSUSE 12.2 Milestone 1 (i586)
VERSION = 12.2
CODENAME = Mantis
linux@linux:~>

Back with some more feedback. This time i used the net install iso for 32 bit systems, same build 152.

The installer did his job until the end of the process. As lwfinger noticed the only thing happening was a bad checksum error.
After i installed this milestone with kde as my desktop, i started to open programs that i normally open after a fresh install (you can consider this various tests): yast -> repositories to adjust them, sound settings to disable pulseaudio, konsole to adjust his fonts and firefox. They all worked fine. An issue at the end of my test was Apper that was unable to finish his job and hanged. Shutting down the installed OS booted up with systemd also worked well.

I tried out 12.2 milestone1 ( build 0151) on my Sandbox PC, which is an ancient athlon-1100 with an MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard, 2GB RAM, and an AGP nVidia FX5200 graphic card.

I had noted previous that the liveCDs were too large for a CD, so I burned the 32-bit openSUSE-12.2 liveCD to a +R DVD and then booted this old PC to that burned DVD.

I used/entered the ‘nomodeset’ boot code in the boot grub menu, as I know from experience this nVidia card gives the nouveau driver hiccups.

The PC booted to 12.2 KDE ok to a somewhat low 1024x768 resolution, albeit with the fbdev driver, as evident from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file: SUSE Paste

However if one looks at ‘my computer’ one obtains a fallacious reading from the openSUSE ‘sysinfo’ that the nouveau driver is in use, which is not the case. It is the fbdev driver that is in use (take a look at the Xorg.0.log file that I quoted).

http://thumbnails59.imagebam.com/17429/6f291c174280752.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/6f291c174280752)

This graphic card is capable of 1600x1200 resolution (and the monitor I use capable of 1920x1200) so 1024x768 is a bit on the low side.

I plugged in a USB-2.0 memory stick and it was hot plug automounted ok. I used zypper to install the application ‘leafpad’ which installed ok. I noted the 12.1 repositories were still configured/in-use for this 12.2 milestone1 build-0151

This sandbox PC has two sound devices, one on the motherboard and an ancient sound blaster compatible sound card. I had to go to YaST to configure both sound cards, and after doing that sound worked. I also installed pavucontrol and noted it functioned fine with the sound devices.

I launched firefox and successfully played a youtube video.

**ARTIFACTS: **

I noted I was getting artifacts associated with the fbdev driver, as seen here :
http://thumbnails67.imagebam.com/17429/a1cfc3174280755.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/a1cfc3174280755)

and here in YaST :
http://thumbnails43.imagebam.com/17429/834f89174280758.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/834f89174280758)

I launched open office and it ran, albeit I did get typical JRE required error upon starting open office.

**WITHOUT NOMODESET **

I then rebooted the PC and checked to see if it would boot to X without ‘nomodeset’. It would not, and it dumped me at a “linux login:” prompt.

Here is a pix of the error in the Xorg.0.log file (when looking at it with a text editor) when the nouveau driver fails:
http://thumbnails43.imagebam.com/17429/4cc46f174280762.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/4cc46f174280762)
[click on image for larger view]

This is an upstream error to the best of my knowledge and there is no point in cluttering bugzilla with this as a bug report.

so I then tried the ‘nv’ driver (see next post).

As noted in my above post, I tried out 12.2 milestone1 ( build 0151) on my Sandbox PC, which is an ancient athlon-1100 with an MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard, 2GB RAM, and an AGP nVidia FX5200 graphic card.

This time I booted from build-0151 (from the liveCD burned to a DVD), and chose text mode, and entered ‘nomodeset 3’ in the options line. This also booted to the “linux login:” prompt, and I went to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf, and edited that file to use the ‘nv’ driver.

I then typed ‘xinit’ and that booted KDE with the nv driver. This can seen here in the ‘my computer’
http://thumbnails44.imagebam.com/17429/24161c174280771.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/24161c174280771)

and also seen in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file: SUSE Paste

I noted the fonts were not so nice :
http://thumbnails56.imagebam.com/17429/12861d174280773.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/12861d174280773)

… and so I went to KMENU > Configure Desktop > Common Appearance and Behavior > Application Appearance > Fonts > Force Fonts DPI and set it to 96 and obtained this:
http://thumbnails66.imagebam.com/17429/471d3c174280774.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/471d3c174280774)

which was a larger FONT that I prefer.

I also tested firefox, mounting a USB stick, launching Office, etc …

With the nv driver I had no observable artifacts. However the resolution was still at a poor 1024x768 which was NOT a surprise, as this low resolution is a long standing limitation of the nv driver with the nVidia FX5200 AGP graphic card.

I considered installing gcc , but I obtained massive dependencies notifications, likely associated with the openSUSE-12.1 repository being in place, so I did not proceed with that

I get the same behaviour when I install with nomodeset a low resolution (that does not use the full screen). To install the nvidia driver (after using the kde live install CD) you need to point the repo to the factory repo:

Index of /factory/repo/oss/suse

This will then install the correct version of gcc and the additional kernel packages (syms, sourse etc).

On a separare note your earlier post saved me from going mad. I had d/l the kde live iso and was trying to burn this as a cd initially unsuccessfully until I saw your post and used a dvd.

My own experiences with milestone 1 show a few hic-ups. Youtube crashes without fail. Using the default webkit settings just closes konqueror. If I use the khtml settings it crashes with an error message. The half missing graphic (until you adjust the screen size|) for amarok (which seems common with kde 4.8 at this time) drives me potty and I can’t send any emails with kmail (as I get a cyurs-sals error). Despite these little problems pretty good overall would be my verdict.

That should read: "I then typed ‘xinit’ and that booted KDE with the nv driver. "

Yesterday I installed Milestone 1 on my old laptop (Fujitsu Siemens Celsius H230). All devices with Linux driver available were detected and work.
One minor old USB problem seems to be gone (bug #701368), but I got new ones :slight_smile:
The most annoying problem is one with cryptsetup during boot. After entering the password for decryption the system waits for a timeout (one minute?) before it continues booting with error messages. Eventually everything is working. After login I can access my encrypted home partition without any problems, but I hate to wait during boot for so long. I filed bug #746588 for this.
In KDE 4.8 I get a message in the system tray messaging area: “Art der Rolle ist unbekannt”. I translate this into English as “the kind of role is unknown”. ?? What on earth is KDE trying to tell me?

Hendrik